Forgetting Sarah Marshall (2008)
JJ, Mattson and Alec dive into a cinematic exploration of "Forgetting Sarah Marshall," a film characterized by its unique blend of humor and heartfelt moments. We delve into the narrative's examination of heartbreak and self-discovery, as the protagonist, Peter, embarks on a journey to heal from his emotional turmoil. Through a rigorous analysis, we highlight the film's adept portrayal of relatable characters and situations, which contributes significantly to its comedic essence. Our discussion further encompasses the performances of the ensemble cast, particularly the transformative comedic style exhibited by Jason Segel and the intriguing dynamics brought forth by Russell Brand's character. Ultimately, we reflect on the film's capacity to evoke laughter while simultaneously imparting poignant life lessons, rendering it a noteworthy entry in the realm of romantic comedies.
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The shirt cracks me up.
Speaker A:Like where he's just like ripping on the shirt.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:Oh no, not the shirt.
Speaker B:Oh no, not the shirt.
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Speaker A:Oh, a shitty TV show actress about us or a comedic dramatic musical with puppet writer about us.
Speaker D:It's a very niche, you know, job right there.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's.
Speaker A:But it's, you know, is what it is.
Speaker A:But yeah, look, we're in the final week of our montho Alec, or weird shitty romcoms as it were.
Speaker A:So chick flicks I think is what we were aiming for.
Speaker D:But Month of Alex sounds better.
Speaker A:Rolls up.
Speaker A:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker A:And to round out the month and the topic we're doing forgetting Cerem Marshall.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:It was written by Nicholas Stoller, or sorry.
Speaker A:It was written by Jason Siegel, directed by Nicholas Stoller.
Speaker A:It stars Kristen Bell, Jason Siegel, Paul Rudd, Mila Kunis, Russell Brand, Bill Hader, Liz Kakowski, Mari Maria thayer and Jack McBrayer.
Speaker A:It is about a devastated Peter who takes a Hawaiian vacation in order to deal with the recent breakup with his TV star girlfriend Sarah.
Speaker A:Little does he know, Sarah's traveling to the same resort as her ex and she's bringing along her new boyfriend.
Speaker A:God, that's a long ass.
Speaker A:Synopsis that felt very unnecessary for this particular movie.
Speaker A:You could have gone.
Speaker C:But it was, it was accurate though.
Speaker B:Unlike many.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was very accurate.
Speaker A:I think he could have been like, silly guy gets heartbroken, ends up in same resort with.
Speaker A:With ex girlfriend and boyfriend.
Speaker A:Yeah, forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Speaker A:This was my movie.
Speaker A:This is my one and only movie in the month though, Alec.
Speaker A:This is a movie.
Speaker A:I got a story about this movie as to that allows me to share why I feel the way about this movie that I do.
Speaker A:So when this movie came out, I was not a fan of Jason Siegel.
Speaker A:Like I didn't think he was that funny.
Speaker A:Now at this point he hadn't done much.
Speaker A:Like he had some bit pieces in the other stuff that the, the producer of this film had done that like knocked up 40 year old virgin.
Speaker A:Like he had some stuff that was part of that and he was more.
Speaker A:But he was more of a comedic writer.
Speaker A:But you'd See him.
Speaker A:And I, like, there was a couple things.
Speaker A:I just didn't like him.
Speaker A:I was like, I don't find him that funny.
Speaker A:But that was true for that whole.
Speaker A:Most of that crew of, like, I don't.
Speaker A:Most of them, I don't find that funny except in moments.
Speaker A:And so I was, like, really hesitant to go see this.
Speaker A:But I'm also all for a rated R, like, romcom.
Speaker A:Like, to me, I'm like, yes, please give me some adult humor with some cursing and, like, this is my kind of movie.
Speaker A:So I was like, okay, I like these guys.
Speaker A:They do some raunchy.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go watch this movie.
Speaker A:And I love Mila Kunis.
Speaker A:So I was like, let's go watch it.
Speaker A:And I laughed my ass off at this movie, specifically Jason's Siegel.
Speaker A:I thought this was some of the funniest ever.
Speaker A:And then it's.
Speaker A:It kind of flipped a switch for me with him to where I'll watch pretty much anything that he's involved in just to see it, because I'm curious if it's going to be as good.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker A:He's had some really shitty films and some bad tv, but, man, when he gets it right, this dude gets it right.
Speaker A:And in my opinion, this movie gets almost everything right.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:I could see, like, I've known dudes that become this SAP ass, dopey, crybaby, son of a gun that just cannot get over a girlfriend who's like.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, what is going on with you?
Speaker A:Like, Jesus.
Speaker A:And so watching that play out on screen, to me was some of the funniest I've ever seen.
Speaker A:And then, like, the recognition and like, just the.
Speaker A:The seeing that play out and then, like, the funny that he says and the dumb that he does and then some of, like, the bit players, like, the dude, the big old Polynesian dude that he, like, makes friends with, it's like, I'm not a baby.
Speaker A:You look like a big baby.
Speaker A:Like, it's just that dude makes me laugh.
Speaker A:And then, like, the silly religious couple that are there on their money moon and can't figure out sex, that makes me laugh.
Speaker A:There's, like, very little in this movie that doesn't make me laugh.
Speaker A:So that's why when we talked about the montho Alec and it was gonna be raunchy chick flicks, like, this is the first thing that popped into my head as a raunchy chick flick was forgetting Sarah Marshall, because, like, I'll watch this movie anytime, anywhere.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I was Sitting there watching it.
Speaker A:I watched it a couple weeks ago in preparation and we ran into all our recording issues and so I was like, it, I'm gonna watch it again today while I'm working.
Speaker A:So I had my work going and then in the background I had this.
Speaker A:I'm over here working, laughing my ass off the whole movie.
Speaker A:And I'm not even watching it.
Speaker A:I'm listening to it.
Speaker A:But yeah, just funny as.
Speaker A:So that's why this movie came here and why it's my pick because it just, it makes me giggle.
Speaker A:My other pick, which didn't get picked was because I wanted to torture you two.
Speaker A:This one's because I, I love this movie.
Speaker A:So I'm curious to hear what you guys.
Speaker A:Have you guys seen this before?
Speaker A:Oh yeah.
Speaker D:But this is, this is one that I forget about like all the time.
Speaker D:So it's almost the exact opposite is I know it, I like it when I'm watching.
Speaker D:I think it's hilarious.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:But I forget it exists.
Speaker D:And I, I don't know why.
Speaker D:There's no real reason for it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:But yeah, it's funny because it's, it's something that forgetting about Sarah Marshall, I forget about this movie even exists.
Speaker D:And so when it's going through something to watch, someone else has to suggest it because I just don't even remember that any.
Speaker D:That this is a film.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:But no, I enjoy it.
Speaker D:I really like Jonah Hill in it though.
Speaker D:Jonah Hill in this is like Peak Prime.
Speaker D:Jonah Hill, in my opinion.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Where he's just, he, he does such a good job being that annoying little, you know, prick that just, it's, it's like he, he's there to ruin the movie, but he makes it better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:And so every interaction he has, especially with Russell Brand, it's just phenomenal because he's got that, you know, kind of like Weasley little, you know, annoyance that just does not shut up at all.
Speaker D:It's the best.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's about time someone said Russell Brand.
Speaker C:I think this is the first movie.
Speaker B:That I saw him in.
Speaker B:And then the next one I was like, get him to the Greek or whatever.
Speaker B:But I'll never forget where he pets a furry wall.
Speaker B:Like, I just, I never forget that scene.
Speaker B:But Russell Brand in this movie, dude, it's just that weird dude.
Speaker B:And he plays it really well and definitely makes you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker B:But then he spouts like words of wisdom and he actually is like a stand up, like normal guy.
Speaker B:Just has some weird views on sexual morality.
Speaker B:And that's fine.
Speaker B:That's what he does.
Speaker B:But then I.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I appreciated his, like, cool, foreign, like, London vibes in this film.
Speaker B:And weird dude, but so funny for, like, the scenes that he's in.
Speaker B:He just like the dinner scene when they both didn't want to be there.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:Like, just.
Speaker A:The shirt cracks me up.
Speaker A:Like, where he's just, like, ripping on the shirt.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:Oh, no, not the shirt.
Speaker B:Oh, no, not the shirt.
Speaker A:My favorite line of his is when Jonah Hill goes off on him in that shitty British accent.
Speaker A:He's, like, all calm, collected, just.
Speaker A:And I love, like, that's the people with him in this movie.
Speaker A:He's just.
Speaker A:Is the same even keel and he's just like.
Speaker A:So was that really terrible British accent supposed to be me?
Speaker A:Just the random ass lines that he has.
Speaker A:He is really good in this film.
Speaker C:He plays that character lots and things, but he definitely shot that down pat.
Speaker C:Like, he just.
Speaker C:He can tap into that.
Speaker C:And for my first experience with him with, like, his leather chaps and his body gyrations and it's just funny.
Speaker C:Like, that's why I really like this me.
Speaker C:Jason Siegel's great.
Speaker C:Like, his giant bowl of cereal to his weird musical to his depression of crying like an old lady.
Speaker C:And hotel guests were, like, reporting on it.
Speaker C:Like, oh, I mean, he was really great in this movie.
Speaker C:But Russell Brand is what the reason why I would go back and watch this movie.
Speaker C:He cracks me up.
Speaker C:Like, Kristen Bell's fine.
Speaker C:She kind of wears me a little bit in this movie, but she's supposed to.
Speaker C:That's what I always had to run.
Speaker C:I'm like, well, she's doing exactly what they wrote her to do.
Speaker C:So that's great because she's awesome.
Speaker C:And some other things.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's just a lot of good acting in this movie.
Speaker C:And they actually have jokes that land pretty consistently throughout.
Speaker C:And for a movie like this, that's to be commended because usually.
Speaker C:So we've talked about films like this, they just always go too far.
Speaker C:They don't know, like, when to turn it off and turn it on.
Speaker C:And I think the thing I appreciate about this movie is it's usually always right where it needs to be.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think I.
Speaker A:There's only one exception for me to that.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's ironic because it's the person in this movie that I typically find the most consistently funny being Paul Rudd.
Speaker A:Like, really?
Speaker D:You don't?
Speaker A:Like, Kudu cracks my up.
Speaker A:But Kudu goes too far a couple of times.
Speaker A:Like, it's like, okay, it was funny.
Speaker A:You're pushing like, he's not funny anymore.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker A:Which is sad because, like I said, like, for me, Paul Rudd is one of the most consistently funny people out there.
Speaker A:But in this movie, like.
Speaker A:And I don't.
Speaker A:I can even tell you it's like the.
Speaker A:It's when he goes back and he's like, I want to ride a wave.
Speaker A:And then you see him after, like, the whole coral incident.
Speaker A:Like, they.
Speaker A:He just pushes it, and I'm like, okay, you need to make him go away, because the rest of it's funny.
Speaker A:But, like, that's.
Speaker A:There's a couple of moments where I'm like, I don't need Paul Rudd in my life.
Speaker A:But when he hits his kunu, oh, my God, like, I laugh my ass off when he's, like, the second time he meets him.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's just straight the same.
Speaker A:Saying the same.
Speaker A:You gotta look like you got some pain behind those eyes.
Speaker A:That part cracks me up.
Speaker A:What about you, Alec?
Speaker D:For kunu?
Speaker D:Well, it's the surfing instructing.
Speaker D:You're doing too much.
Speaker D:Do more.
Speaker A:Too much.
Speaker D:No, no, wrong.
Speaker D:Back down.
Speaker D:Get up.
Speaker D:No, back, just.
Speaker D:And it's.
Speaker D:It's that coupled with the.
Speaker D:It's weird because it's a lot of timing.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:It.
Speaker D:The Kunu scenes hit for me, I think, because the timing.
Speaker D:Because they almost just come in flying from left field as almost filler space.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker D:But then you get these great moments of, you know, like, I don't wear a watch.
Speaker D:You know, I moved out here, I don't wear a watch.
Speaker D:It's like, yeah, because it's on my phone.
Speaker D:He's got a perfect, logical reason for not wearing a watch.
Speaker D:But you hear it all the time about people who do move to, like, an island or something like that, that, you know, time moves different.
Speaker D:You're on that island time.
Speaker A:Type of a.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:And so it's just so funny because they lead you down what you think is a logical path that just turns left.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:So that cracks me up.
Speaker D:But overall, it's a lot with the timing in this movie.
Speaker D:That's just a.
Speaker D:An example of it.
Speaker D:But they do such a good job.
Speaker D:And I think breaking up the scenes and tying all the side characters and are keeping them relevant so that you have these filler moments that don't feel like filler moments.
Speaker D:And I mean, we have so much of, like, the.
Speaker D:The resort staff.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker D:And normally that would just piss me off because there's no reason for it, but it is in many ways the best Part of the movie, like, straight from the, you know, killing the poor to the luau and everything.
Speaker D:You can stop crying now.
Speaker D:He's dead.
Speaker A:Yeah, that would.
Speaker A:That would give me, like.
Speaker A:That gives me, like, flashbacks to the story I told you guys about, like, actually slaughtering pigs.
Speaker A:But, yeah, though.
Speaker A:I love that part, too.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:That guy, that dude.
Speaker A:I can't remember his name, but he's one of the funniest dudes in the whole movie.
Speaker A:Like, when he's like, are those sad tears or sad tissues or happy tissues in the face that he gets when he says happy tissues?
Speaker A:He just pure disgusting on his face.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:And then when, like, they go to the beach.
Speaker A:When he goes to the beach with Mila Kudis, and she's like, if I run, you run.
Speaker A:And then she goes in on this dude, and the guy slaps that big dude, and he straight levels that guy immediately after.
Speaker A:What are you doing?
Speaker A:And he's w.
Speaker A:Like, I just love.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's my favorite character this whole movie.
Speaker A:And I love almost all the characters in this movie.
Speaker A:So that's saying a lot.
Speaker A:But he.
Speaker A:Yeah, just this whole movie just makes me laugh, but it kind of does what we talked about in our.
Speaker A:In the Patreon review.
Speaker A:Go check it out if you guys want to see it.
Speaker A:Cost you some money, but it's worth it.
Speaker A:But, yeah, like, the.
Speaker A:There's my shameless plug.
Speaker A:When we were talking about the fact that that's a movie in Saved that touches on realistic things, like, this is another movie to me that while it goes way out of bounds in a lot of places, it still is relatable enough on so many levels that I'm like, okay, there's not a single point of view in this movie that I can't relate to.
Speaker A:I mean, even right down to, like, forgetting Sarah.
Speaker A:Like, Sarah Marshall, right?
Speaker A:Where she's like, jesus, I'm so annoyed.
Speaker A:But then realizes later on that what she had is better than what she has in the moment that she left him for.
Speaker A:Like, I can relate on all those levels to almost every person in this.
Speaker A:Or the.
Speaker A:The weird best friend that you.
Speaker A:You know, or this.
Speaker A:The family member, the stepbrother, who.
Speaker A:Bill Hader just cracks me up on that, too.
Speaker A:That's another one.
Speaker A:But, like, that's for me.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:One of the other reasons I love this movie is everyone in it is relatable on some level.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And so even if you aren't that person, you've known someone that fits that bill, they're so weird that they're cool or, you know, they're kind of sad and they, you know, they dictate their whole life is dictated by who they're with at the moment.
Speaker A:And that's what they wrap themselves into.
Speaker A:Or, you know, the grass is greener person or the closed off person because they had a bad relationship.
Speaker A:Like, there's just all that that Bill.
Speaker C:Hader and his wife would ever make me think of.
Speaker C:And you know, this person, if this were Landon talking to Chase and Lindsay, he just tunes him out because they're two married people and they only dated each other and don't know anything else.
Speaker C:Really.
Speaker C:Yeah, he just tunes them out like nobody's business.
Speaker C:And like married people giving you advice on, like, dating off.
Speaker C:It's like you, You're.
Speaker C:You totally forgot.
Speaker C:You don't even know what you're talking about anymore.
Speaker C:But I will say that the part of the movie that I care for the least is actually the scenes Bill Haders.
Speaker C:And I'm not like a.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, he's not my.
Speaker C:I'm not his biggest fan.
Speaker C:And while he's not bad in this, and I think he adds quite a lot in this, especially when his wife pops in, she's like, is she listening?
Speaker C:And then she's like.
Speaker A:I'd really like a woman's point of view.
Speaker C:And I really.
Speaker C:I appreciate why they showed it.
Speaker C:But that's where, like, where this movie is less funny for me, if I was to take something out, it'd be those.
Speaker C:Because everything else I think is really funny, it's those scenes I'm like, yeah, like.
Speaker C:But I know other people, like, euphrates think those are really funny in some other spots that I find funny.
Speaker C:That's why comedy is so hard because, yeah, they're trying all different types of jokes.
Speaker C:And that's why this, to me, this movie should still be commended.
Speaker C:That even those that I'm.
Speaker C:I don't think are as great, they're.
Speaker C:It's not that they're bad.
Speaker C:It's just.
Speaker C:It's not my Bill Hader type of humor.
Speaker C:He's just never been.
Speaker C:It would be like if Awkwafina was on this.
Speaker C:Like, there was a show I was about to watch the other day that looked intriguing on Netflix.
Speaker C:I don't remember what it was called.
Speaker C:And then the main.
Speaker C:The first name was.
Speaker C:I was like, oh, it's Awkwafina.
Speaker C:Nope, can't watch that.
Speaker C:That passed.
Speaker C:I was like.
Speaker C:And I was like, damn.
Speaker C:Like, this looks intriguing.
Speaker C:That type of vibe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is funny because when I think of those scenes in a lot of ways.
Speaker A:I think of you and Taylor, like when we're playing video games and you'll say some and then she'll.
Speaker A:Or I'll say some.
Speaker A:Here is Taylor yelling in the background.
Speaker A:And she's done it on the podcast before, too.
Speaker A:Like, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I always think about.
Speaker A:Yeah, you guys, I love the part where Jason Siegel's character, like when he.
Speaker A:When Peter makes his wife go up and down on the screen and then.
Speaker A:And then watch him go, oh, I know what you're doing, and that's not funny.
Speaker A:And then he's like, yeah, that, that pearl necklace, is that new?
Speaker A:He's like, oh, that's gross.
Speaker A:That's one of my favorite scenes of this whole movie.
Speaker A:Just because it's so.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I would be that guy, like, making like, setting someone up that wouldn't notice it.
Speaker A:Do that kind of like.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, that's your real talk, though.
Speaker C:Have either of you ever had a bowl of cereal that big where you're pulling, pouring the whole box in a giant bowl like that?
Speaker C:I love cereal.
Speaker D:But Daniel, not that big.
Speaker C:But yes, I've done a normal bowl.
Speaker C:I eat it, or I have milk left over and I'll put more cereal in.
Speaker C:And then I'm like, oh, man, this is so good.
Speaker C:I just need a little bit more milk.
Speaker C:Let me do some more.
Speaker C:But still, I don't even.
Speaker B:Dude, it was like, yeah, that was.
Speaker D:Like a 20 person salad bowl that.
Speaker A:I knew that.
Speaker D:But I've done big bowls.
Speaker A:I wish I had it in here with me.
Speaker A:But Casey eats like, when she'll go.
Speaker A:So most of the time she eats like Shredded Wheat and shitty cereal that I'm like, why the do you eat that?
Speaker A:But every once in a while she gets a hankering for some Froot Loops and so she'll buy her one of those big ass bags of Froot Loops and she has this mixing bowl that she'll go and fucking pour half a box of Fruit Loops and eat the whole bowl.
Speaker C:So sugar it up, baby.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've never done it.
Speaker A:Like, I've eaten it in like a bowl that's probably like not a normal bowl, but like a bigger, like, one you'd maybe make some Mac and Cheese in or something for the whole family.
Speaker A:Then I'd cook it.
Speaker A:I'd do some cereal on that.
Speaker A:But it's like a quarter of a bag of cereal.
Speaker A:Not that bowl.
Speaker A:But I laugh at that because I'm like, I could do that.
Speaker A:I'm not saying I Would, but I could.
Speaker C:Sometimes cereal just hits a spot.
Speaker C:It's rare.
Speaker C:I'd, like, rarely ever actually eat it for breakfast.
Speaker C:And I try not to eat too much for it these days, but when I do, yeah, I can't, like, Tay bought like Lucky Charms or banks for like St.
Speaker C:Patrick's Day or whatever.
Speaker C:I just couldn't contain myself.
Speaker C:I ate the shits out of that cereal.
Speaker A:And it depends on the cereal too.
Speaker A:Like, you could have all the boxes of Cheerios in my house, which I enjoy.
Speaker A:Cheerios.
Speaker C:I like Cheerios.
Speaker A:I'm not eating them in a giant ass bowl.
Speaker A:Captain Crunch.
Speaker C:I would consider it the one.
Speaker C:The one I would do for our listening audience.
Speaker C:Reese's Puffs, man, that cereal, if they.
Speaker C:It's a dessert, dude.
Speaker C:I put that in ice cream sometimes, dude.
Speaker A:Cinnamon toast crunch.
Speaker A:I'd eat a bowl that big.
Speaker A:And then I would make horchata out of the milk after I'm done.
Speaker C:What about you, Alec?
Speaker C:What's your.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker A:Your.
Speaker C:Your cereal of your guilty pleasure?
Speaker D:I'm not big on cereal, but when I was, it was.
Speaker D:It was like a toss up between tricks and Captain Crunch.
Speaker C:Captain Crunch.
Speaker C:Peanut butter.
Speaker C:Captain Crunch is also up there for me.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's.
Speaker D:It's a lot of like.
Speaker D:Like the cereals you can snack on, right?
Speaker C:Yeah, those cereals, like, if I ever have it these days, it's more.
Speaker C:So I'll just pop it in, like, just heat it.
Speaker D:Like Frosted Flakes, I think is better just like straight out of the box than actually.
Speaker A:Yeah, eating it with milk.
Speaker A:So it's because the milk wipes all the sugar off of them.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And so just eating back and forth.
Speaker A:I'm just eating Wheaties.
Speaker A:And what the hell am I doing that for?
Speaker C:Wheaties.
Speaker A:I'm no Michael Jordan.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna be good.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:I do love the big bowl.
Speaker A:I think the other thing.
Speaker A:And you guys tell me if there was a Dracula musical comedy musical with puppets.
Speaker A:Count me in.
Speaker C:I'm sure they had fun at the end of the movie and they were like, all right, we're done.
Speaker C:Now we just need to make the most ridiculous one minute scene of a Dracula musical that hadn't been fun to do.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, that's something I wouldn't enjoy going or wouldn't want to go to and then would end up having fun because.
Speaker D:Oh, she dragged me there.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:That is textbook for Spiderman because Ochi's making the concerts, the shows and stuff like that.
Speaker D:And I'm like, not.
Speaker D:But she's picked some really good ones over the years.
Speaker D:That.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's like, that's something that I'd be like, why are we going to this?
Speaker D:This is stupid.
Speaker D:I would eat it all the way up until, like, you know, curtain.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:I love the whole, like, from the time we get introduced to the musical.
Speaker A:Like, I think that's so good.
Speaker A:And I love the fact that she laughs at it when everybody else typically is, like, confused by it.
Speaker A:Because, like, I giggled.
Speaker A:Like, that first song that he plays in the bar, like, or the restaurant or wherever the hell it is.
Speaker A:Like, I laugh at that because it's just such a funny concept of Dracula falling for this, like, and having this love story beyond, like, the sinister version that you see on the movies and whatnot.
Speaker A:Like, that shit's hysterical.
Speaker A:And then watching her laugh.
Speaker A:Yeah, I would definitely.
Speaker A:And then I watched the end of it, and to your point, they had to had a great time putting on this puppet show in, like, for the movie.
Speaker A:But, like, I watched it and I go, well, now I want to watch the whole thing.
Speaker A:Like, I want to see all of it.
Speaker A:Like, because I bet it's hilarious.
Speaker A:Not that it actually exists, but I'd go see it for sure.
Speaker C:I mean, I think it also lands because Jason single, Siegel, like, I mean, while he's not, like, a phenomenal singer, like, he can sing, like, and he actually, if you.
Speaker C:He's sung in some of his TV.
Speaker B:Shows and movies, like, he.
Speaker C:I mean, he went balls to the walls in that scene.
Speaker C:That's why.
Speaker C:On those scenes, that's why I think it's appreciated because he was actually, like, funny, like, good, but, like, he made it funny good.
Speaker C:Like, when he really gets into his, like, operatic voice with Dracula, you're like, all right, dude, like, game.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, one of the other funniest parts connected to him singing is, like, when you first cut to him right before he starts working on it and he's singing, like, that angry.
Speaker A:That part makes me laugh, too, every time he does it.
Speaker A:But, yeah, like, I like this movie.
Speaker A:I like the how it plays out.
Speaker A:It's well written to Jason Siegel's, like, credit.
Speaker A:Like, it's a very well written movie, too, in my opinion.
Speaker A:And, like, what I mean by that is, like, one of my favorite parts of this is I don't usually love flashbacks unless they're done right.
Speaker A:And in this one, like, his flashbacks of realization once he's gotten into Mila Kunis's character, Rachel, and he's, like, starting to see the Differences where she laughs at his.
Speaker A:His song because she gets it.
Speaker A:And then it cuts to him, like with Sarah Marshall, and she's telling him, like, she's being kind.
Speaker A:It's not like she's being shitty.
Speaker A:She's just like, I just don't get it right.
Speaker A:And so that connections.
Speaker A:I love seeing the realization that he has, like, once he sees something different because he's so lost in this depression that, like, he doesn't see and he's.
Speaker A:And then he's been in the relationship for so long.
Speaker A:Because I love the first cut too, where it's like him, like, holding her bag, like, off the camera, like 99 of the time, like, looking bored and annoyed like that.
Speaker A:Like watching those realizations of the.
Speaker A:That you put up with because you were in it even though it wasn't healthy for you.
Speaker A:And then noticing the difference and that, that dynamic of comparison, which most of the time comparison is not good, but that comparison in that light, where it's a healthy comparison of something, that's why something feels so good versus why you're suddenly realizing something you thought was so good.
Speaker A:It wasn't is so.
Speaker A:It was such an interesting way to play it out on screen for me.
Speaker A:So I really appreciate the writing of the film.
Speaker A:And, like, that's all.
Speaker A:I mean, he's the writer, so, you know, he knew what he was going for and they really leaned into it, which I liked.
Speaker A:But I think it has some really good points to it as well.
Speaker A:Like points of real life situation of being in a relationship for too long or for the wrong reasons, or tying your entire existence up in one person and not realizing that you have to do some of that for yourself too.
Speaker A:Like, and if you don't, then you end up in that situation where she obviously.
Speaker A:Because I think the other part that's really interesting is as much as her, Sarah Marshall's annoying and, like, seems really awful.
Speaker A:And they play it that well when she has that moment where she breaks down and lashes out at Jason, at Peter.
Speaker A:Like, I'm.
Speaker A:Like, I feel for her too, because it's obvious that she was.
Speaker A:She's tried and she came at it from different angles.
Speaker A:And his bad habits didn't play well with her bad habits.
Speaker A:And so, like, figuring those kinds of things out is not easy in a relationship.
Speaker A:And so, like, seeing the truth of the matter that they both cared about each other, it just didn't work for various reasons.
Speaker A:And they were oblivious to both of them on their side.
Speaker A:Like, it's an interesting play on a very serious topic.
Speaker A:Done in a very non serious movie.
Speaker A:So I.
Speaker A:I appreciate that level of intelligence in the writing as well, which I'm learning more and more.
Speaker A:Jason Siegel's good at that.
Speaker B:Yeah, there was lessons to be learned, for sure.
Speaker C:I think we're.
Speaker C:I mean, the other side you didn't talk about is getting over just a.
Speaker B:Relationship and how you get over that and the ways to do it.
Speaker B:And it's different for everybody.
Speaker B:It could be.
Speaker B:It could be faster, slower.
Speaker B:Some people can get really wrapped up in it.
Speaker B:They're vengeful or so sad and depressed that they just push all the good away in their lives, even their friends.
Speaker B:And you see a lot of different types of that in this movie.
Speaker B:And yeah, you don't expect to have life lessons in a comedic movie of this amount.
Speaker B:But I think to your credit, it's like you said, Jay, it's well written.
Speaker B:So some of those things, they do come through in a more comedic way, which is a lot of the way I like to learn.
Speaker B:Or you could be like Russell Brand's character and just be like oblivious to everything and just truly beat to your own drum and that's it.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker A:That's not a terrible way to live.
Speaker A:Might be a little lonely, but I did laugh when he's sitting on the couch at the end and the little newly married brides, like, smiling at him.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go have sex with her now.
Speaker A:That's just key.
Speaker A:That's just like.
Speaker A:That's amazingly funny to me.
Speaker C:Just like, all right, yeah, that would be an interesting lifestyle.
Speaker C:But ultimately, at some point, get fairly lonely.
Speaker A:But yeah, so the other charact, the other like.
Speaker A:And I mentioned them earlier, the other relationship that you see in this, that just absolutely has me in stitches the whole time is the young couple, like.
Speaker A:And like, especially like that first scene, you see them where like he's sitting at the bar and he's talking about the struggles and she goes, let me do that to you.
Speaker A:He's like, no, no.
Speaker A:It's like, if God wanted that, he wouldn't have put our mouths on our head.
Speaker A:Like, it's just like.
Speaker A:Or like, sorry.
Speaker A:Where he says, like, what is it?
Speaker A:The play, the fun house and the like the sewage system in the same.
Speaker A:I was a city planner.
Speaker A:Like, I just think that's some of the funniest that the whole.
Speaker A:And that too, because, like, I've heard horror stories from friends of like, first night, first time not knowing what the to do and it being like a terrible experience trying to figure that out.
Speaker A:Like I've heard so many stories about that.
Speaker A:So watching that play out on screen and thankfully they get their, you know, their comeuppance or their happy ending, if you will, thanks to Russell Brand's lessons on the giant chessboard.
Speaker A:But God almighty, that every scene those two are in just cracks me up.
Speaker A:When she comes and gets him and licks his ear and he's like, yay.
Speaker B:I hadn't seen in a while, so I thought he was like.
Speaker B:I was like, I can't remember if like he's actually like gay or like in the.
Speaker B:Turns out to be in the, in this film.
Speaker B:But then I was like, oh, yeah.
Speaker B:He just doesn't know how it works.
Speaker B:But he sure figured it out.
Speaker A:It just, yeah, it cracks me up.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:There's so much funny about this movie and some great one liners and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's visually pleasing.
Speaker B:Send me.
Speaker B:I, I go to Hawaii fairly often and send me back.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Jjb Too damn hot though.
Speaker B:Although if you went to the Big island in where I actually stay at our place now and up in Waimea, you'd be a happy man.
Speaker A:I would.
Speaker A:I've been Hawaii.
Speaker A:It was hot.
Speaker A:I liked it though.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:Yeah, I prefer, I like Maui a lot.
Speaker B:But yeah.
Speaker B:I've yet to hear someone truly, actually hate on Hawaii.
Speaker B:If you're someone that's saying, oh, you probably got something wrong with you.
Speaker A:That's fair.
Speaker A:That is fair.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, I love it.
Speaker A:I think Hawaii is great.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Which, yeah, it was a beautiful, beautiful backdrop for this movie.
Speaker A:Like, great way to do.
Speaker A:Oh, and then him falling off the cliff.
Speaker A:Oh, that.
Speaker A:And the last thing that I forgot about.
Speaker A:And then like I'm sitting here thinking, because I made a note to myself earlier today when I was re watching this to bring it up.
Speaker A:This has some of the greatest montages in movie history.
Speaker A:Like, and there's like four of them.
Speaker A:Like, but all of them are great.
Speaker A:Highlighted by the one after he and.
Speaker A:And Rachel have sex the first time.
Speaker A:And like he's all figuring this out and so he's like.
Speaker A:Or maybe it was when they, after they kissed after he fell off the cliff.
Speaker A:And he's like hanging out with like the old people and the kids and he's like sitting at the wedding just because he can.
Speaker A:Like, that montage makes me laugh every time.
Speaker A:And I, I think it's just clever the way they use the montages because even at the last one where he's like writing his play or whatnot, like, it's Just the whole thing.
Speaker A:I was like, what a.
Speaker A:I don't usually love montages all the time, but these are, are just well placed and funny and keeps the movie at a crisp under two hours.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, pacing is, is strong in this.
Speaker B:Movie, which we know.
Speaker B:I appreciate.
Speaker A:Yeah, it, it, for an under two hour movie, like, it feels like an hour and a half.
Speaker A:So it's, it's really nice.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:All right, should we rate it?
Speaker C:You're up first, Jay.
Speaker A:Hey, I get to go first.
Speaker A:I haven't gone first in like two months.
Speaker A:All right, so forgetting Sarah Marshall, I'm gonna give this a four and a half.
Speaker A:I think it's great.
Speaker A:I think it's funny, I think it's well written.
Speaker A:I think it's true to a lot of life.
Speaker A:Even though it's very like on the outskirts and you know, played up from dramatic effect.
Speaker A:Like everything in here to me is relatable on some level, which is hard to do and make it funny and over the top at the same time and like push the boundaries of what most of the time we would consider a proper, good, healthy movie to watch.
Speaker A:But it also covers so many good life topics and has some great one liners and it's just, I just really like it.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:To me, it's watchable at any time.
Speaker A:I think I.
Speaker A:The only reason I don't give it a 5 is because of sometimes like.
Speaker A:And again, going back to like the Paul Rudd scenes and then there was like one of the bar.
Speaker A:Like there's one of the scenes that I.
Speaker A:I don't remember the other one that just like, I'm just like, okay, I don't.
Speaker A:It's unnecessary.
Speaker A:So for me, like, there's just a couple little things that I'm like clipping that out would have made it the perfect movie in, in my mind, but.
Speaker A:Or one of the perfect movies, but still sticking with a four and a half.
Speaker A:And I would watch this anytime.
Speaker A:Like, I can.
Speaker A:This kind of laughter in my life is always welcome because I laugh the whole time, so.
Speaker A:All right, Alec, what about you?
Speaker D:I think I'm gonna give it a 4.
Speaker D:I enjoy it when I watch it.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:For me it's.
Speaker D:It's almost like the first 10, 15 minutes are like the worst part of this movie.
Speaker D:And so it's getting past that to get to where he's actually on Hawaii, where you now have the supporting cast get involved there.
Speaker D:The movie just takes off and it just kind of keeps going up.
Speaker D:And so like, like I said, someone else has to suggest this movie, and then I almost have to get past that first 15 minutes or so before I really get into it, really enjoy it.
Speaker D:But, you know, when I watch this, I.
Speaker D:I just laugh and it's.
Speaker D:It's a great laugh like you were talking about.
Speaker D:So, yeah, I think I'll give it a 4.
Speaker D:I will watch it again.
Speaker D:Whenever Oshi says, hey, I want to see Jason Siegel, Siegel's dick again, we'll watch it.
Speaker A:Fair enough.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I don't know what the decision was there on that one.
Speaker A:It's a Judd Apatow thing.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He made the commitment long ago that every comedy he ever wrote would have full frontal male nudity.
Speaker A:And he's lived up to it.
Speaker C:It's not a good.
Speaker C:Not a good thing.
Speaker C:I'm gonna give this movie A4.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I mean, Alec basically took everything I was gonna say.
Speaker C:I think you're welcome.
Speaker C:A little slow at the beginning.
Speaker C:Then it get into the meat of it and it's amazing.
Speaker C:And then just.
Speaker C:I've already said this.
Speaker C:The Bill Hader scenes, if you either made less of them or.
Speaker C:It's just not my cup of tea.
Speaker C:It's not that they're.
Speaker C:Some other people probably think they're really funny.
Speaker C:They don't quite land as much for me.
Speaker C:But in terms of the pacing, most of the jokes consistently land.
Speaker C:Phenomenal acting, good writing.
Speaker C:Like, it's.
Speaker C:It'd be hard pressed to find a better comedy out there.
Speaker C:So I think it's.
Speaker C:It's pretty dang good.
Speaker C:If you haven't seen it as your resident man of the people, as my stamp of approval, go watch it.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:And if you're looking for more Jason Siegel, I.
Speaker A:I talked about with these guys earlier.
Speaker A:Go watch Shrinking on Apple tv.
Speaker A:Not sponsored, just a recommendation.
Speaker A:It's funny as hell.
Speaker A:And he's a co writer, produce, like creator of the show.
Speaker A:It's funny.
Speaker A:So anyway, yeah, there it is.
Speaker A:Forgetting Sarah Marshall, right?
Speaker A:It's a good wrap up to the end of a very interesting month of movies.
Speaker A:And looking forward to.
Speaker A:To next month.
Speaker A:We're doing some war movies, so that should be intriguing.
Speaker A:We'll kick that off for the month of May, but yeah, there it is.
Speaker A:Alec, tell everybody where they can find us.
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