The Hangover (2009)
The salient point of this podcast episode centers on the analysis and discussion of the film "The Hangover," which has been deemed a quintessential comedy that resonates with audiences even years after its release. We delve into the film's unique narrative structure, which eschews conventional storytelling by placing the characters in a bewildering situation from the outset, thereby fostering a sense of shared discovery among viewers. Our exploration highlights the standout performances of the cast, particularly Zach Galifianakis, whose eccentric portrayal is pivotal to the film's success. Additionally, we reflect on the film's cultural impact, noting how it has redefined comedic boundaries through its audacious humor and relatable scenarios. Ultimately, we affirm the film's status as a modern classic that continues to elicit laughter and provoke thought about the nature of friendship and the absurdities of life.
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Such a great performance.
Speaker A:But just he was having the time of his life hyping up these little third graders to get excited about and just random, random guys that 20 minutes ago.
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Speaker B:I still to this day use the in the face.
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Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker B:So it's week three of three.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:December, the laugh into movies that made you laugh hard enough to spill your popcorn or snack or spill your drink.
Speaker B:This movie this week made me do all of the above.
Speaker B:So we're doing the Hangover.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It was written by John Lucas.
Speaker B:Scott Moore is directed by Todd Phillips.
Speaker B:It stars Zach Galifianakis, Bradley Cooper, Justin Bartha, Ed Helms, Heather Graham, Sasha Baris, Jeffrey Tambor, Ken John, Rachel Harris, Mike Epps, junior Burks, Rob Riggle.
Speaker B:Who else should I name her?
Speaker B:Matt Walsh.
Speaker B:He was funny and a nice cameo from Mike Tyson.
Speaker B:It's about three buddies who wake up from a bachelor party in Las Vegas.
Speaker B:With no memory of the previous night and the bachelor missing.
Speaker B:They must make their way around the city in order to find their friend in time for this wedding.
Speaker B:His wedding.
Speaker B:Okay, this is my movie.
Speaker B:And I can't even get through my intro without giggling.
Speaker B: y is like, this is so back in: Speaker B:You know me in comedy, I'm a little weird.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:So when I see a comedy like this one, like, I was like, okay, I can relate to that because I'm used to be, especially back then, massive drinker.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:Massive.
Speaker B:And I would.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:So I was like, okay, I can see where the.
Speaker B:There could be some value in this just because I think I.
Speaker B:There's got to be some dumb.
Speaker B:I was not prepared, sir.
Speaker B:Like, we were like, okay, we'll go see it.
Speaker B:Because we used to see a ton of movies.
Speaker B:And we're like, okay, this looks funny.
Speaker B:Maybe, dude.
Speaker B:I don't remember the la.
Speaker B: I still to this day, since: Speaker B: s a lot of things going on in: Speaker B:Than it probably should have been or even would be now.
Speaker B: I think: Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B: , this started probably early: Speaker B:I think the last time I can remember a movie that everybody was like super excited about it being rated R was the Matrix.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden it was like, no, our moviegoers are younger.
Speaker B:They're 13 to 18.
Speaker B:It's probably the peak of moviegoers.
Speaker B: We'll Fast forward to: Speaker B:All of these 13 to 19 year old or 18 year olds were growing into adulthood and they were realizing that these movies that they were being forced to watch were watered down.
Speaker B:Like we go back to the 80s and you had some.
Speaker B:That you're like, what the.
Speaker A:That's a PG13.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B: s and: Speaker B:This could have been great if they could have sworn.
Speaker B:Maybe a titty here and there, some violence.
Speaker B:I mean, whatever the case might be, it was missing things because we were.
Speaker B:They were aiming towards this bracket of human beings that they needed to make a PG13.
Speaker B:So PG13 was the coveted rating, right?
Speaker B:This movie came and flipped that on its head.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It said, we're going to be rated R and we're gonna be rated R. And we don't give a about political correctness we'll go over the top.
Speaker B:So unrealistic and yet relatable, like we talked about earlier this week or this month.
Speaker B:So it's like, when I sat down, I didn't expect what we got.
Speaker B:Like, the last thing I expected was a naked Chinese guy jumping out and beating the out of somebody with a tire iron with his little mini dick hanging out, like.
Speaker B:And I. Dude, I'm not kidding when I say movies that made me spill my popcorn.
Speaker B:This is it.
Speaker B:I spilled my popcorn.
Speaker B:I think I dropped some Skittles, maybe some Starbursts.
Speaker B:And I was crying.
Speaker B:Like, I was laughing so hard the whole time.
Speaker B:And every time now I still watch it.
Speaker B:And don't get me wrong, there's two and three.
Speaker B:Not as good.
Speaker B:They were just money grabs.
Speaker B:Because this worked so well.
Speaker B:Casey and I went to the theater to see this movie three different times within, like, a two week period because we both left and said, that was some of the dumbest I've ever seen.
Speaker B:But God damn it, I laughed so hard at that movie.
Speaker B:And so this will always be near the top of comedy lists for me.
Speaker B:So when we did this one, I was like, I have to do.
Speaker B:Because this is literally one of the only movies that's ever made me, like, laugh so hard that I was dropping because I was.
Speaker B:Couldn't see my.
Speaker B:I was crying so hard, and so I had to do it.
Speaker B:And I watched it the other day, and it still makes me laugh.
Speaker B:Like, even though I know I could quote 90 of this movie, I could have done this recording without watching this movie.
Speaker B:But it's like, it still makes me laugh almost not quite as hard as the first time because that shock value is gone.
Speaker B:God damn, is it funny.
Speaker A:So I don't have a kid when.
Speaker A: Yeah, when this came out in: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I didn't see it until a few years later.
Speaker A:And for me, it doesn't work as well as it does if you change any single person in the cast.
Speaker A:And so because they each have their own role to play that is so phenomenal, it makes all the moments land.
Speaker A:They wouldn't land.
Speaker A:I think if you swap out Zach Galifianakis with anybody else, you could put so many funny people into that role and it doesn't land.
Speaker A:You can even, like, Bradley Cooper, swap him out.
Speaker A:Doesn't work.
Speaker A:Yeah, even.
Speaker A:Even freaking Ed Helms.
Speaker B:Oh, dude.
Speaker A:Like the sniveling, kind of whiny crybaby of the group.
Speaker A:Like, you leave him out and you could There's.
Speaker A:There's a dozen actors that you could put to fit in that role that would bring you kind of the same Persona, and it wouldn't work.
Speaker A:It's these three hooligans all together.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That makes it amazing.
Speaker A:And so, like, when you get down to, you know, they're looking for the 80, 000 in casino chips.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And then you get that glorious, glorious scene where Zach Elfenac is like, I got it.
Speaker A:I'll just count the cards.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And got the numbers going.
Speaker A:He's just.
Speaker A:He's just sitting there.
Speaker A:And you kind of.
Speaker A:You don't realize this until you watch him do interviews.
Speaker A:He wasn't acting here.
Speaker A:He was just being himself.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this is what he is.
Speaker A:And so it's just for.
Speaker A:For me, this is peak.
Speaker A:This was his movie.
Speaker A:Oh, it's absolute, you know, gem of a movie.
Speaker A:Because he's just so phenomenal what he does, but it's that very nonchalant.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He doesn't have to act at all.
Speaker A:And so, I mean, because really, the first time that we're introduced him in this movie is when he meets the tiger in the bathroom.
Speaker A:And you get to see really what you signed up for, because up to that point, it's a very kind of straight shooting movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is when it goes sideways and he just.
Speaker A:He's peeing and just turns.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker B:You're.
Speaker A:You're sitting there going, no.
Speaker A:Like, no way.
Speaker A:Nobody would do that.
Speaker A:But that messed up that gone.
Speaker B:Oh, dude.
Speaker A:And you just hear what shouldn't be there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:100.
Speaker A:And then you get a look and then you just keep turning because.
Speaker A:Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker A:And so it's.
Speaker A:It starts there and then it just continues on.
Speaker A:So from that point, it's almost.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's giggles.
Speaker B:Oh, for sure.
Speaker A:For the majority of the rest of the movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is.
Speaker A:It's just so great.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:I'm glad you put this on the list, dude.
Speaker B:It's special.
Speaker B:It's special, man.
Speaker B:Like, I'm telling you, like, and like you talked about with Super Troopers, like, to me, you said lightning in a bottle, and I agree with you.
Speaker B:And that one.
Speaker B:This is another case of like lightning in a bottle.
Speaker B:You'll never be able to recreate this.
Speaker B:And they've tried twice, and it just doesn't work as well.
Speaker B:Still works.
Speaker B:Part two was funny, had some great additional moments, but it was a remake of this basically just in Thailand.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The third one was so completely different that it just Felt like I was watching a different movie.
Speaker B:But you're right.
Speaker B:Zach Galfenkis.
Speaker B:Listen, I don't love the guy.
Speaker B:Most of what he does, I'm not.
Speaker B:I don't find him funny.
Speaker B:But in this and then in a movie that he did with Robert Downey Jr. That, I can't think of the name of that where they have to go on a road trip together.
Speaker B:If you haven't seen that.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, dude, I think.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I know what you're talking about.
Speaker B:Hilarious.
Speaker B:But it's again, it's like this.
Speaker B:It's, like, so outlandish and yet relatable.
Speaker B:But I think, like, even leading up to.
Speaker B:Because until you get, like, when they wake up the next morning, like.
Speaker B:Like you said, goes off the rails.
Speaker B:Like, the first thing that you do is you see a tiger in the bathroom.
Speaker B:He's half naked, like, running around with no pants on.
Speaker B:But even before that, the freaking.
Speaker B:The setup of how this is going to be.
Speaker B:You see Bradley Cooper, like, I giggle and laugh every time he's taken money from those kids for some fake trip.
Speaker B:Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:And then, like, pocketing it for Vegas money.
Speaker B:And then you get poor Ed Helms character that's, like, getting abused by his fiance, basically.
Speaker B:And like, dude, they're very mature.
Speaker B:Hey.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It'S great, because that would be me.
Speaker B:Like, that would.
Speaker B:And I think that's one of the other reasons I connect, because I would be one of these guys, if not all three of them in one way, shape or form in this situation.
Speaker A:Well, they took, like, the stereotypes, right.
Speaker A:And they just spun them on their head.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So you have the school teacher who usually in a movie, when you put a school teacher, and they're like.
Speaker A:They're the caring, understanding one, the kind of glue that holds everything together.
Speaker A:And Bradley Cooper walks out.
Speaker A:He's like, hey, don't talk to me.
Speaker A:It's after school.
Speaker A:Pretty much like, it's Friday.
Speaker A:Shut up.
Speaker A:I don't know you till Monday.
Speaker A:But then you got your drug dealer who's just.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, throwing everything there.
Speaker A:And then you got the controlling relationship, where it's not, you know, the husband who's controlling the wife or the, you know, man controlling the woman.
Speaker A:It's the reverse.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's his fiance is just.
Speaker A:So they take all these stereotypical relationships or, you know, these kind of movie parts, movie roles that you can throw someone into these molds, and they say, how can we just do the reverse of this?
Speaker A:How can we flip it around so that it.
Speaker A:It is New and it is fresh.
Speaker A:But yeah, when Bradley Cooper, we first get into school teacher, you're like, what?
Speaker A:And then you see what kind of teacher he is, and you're like, oh, okay, I get it now.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker B:Well, then I love, like you meet.
Speaker B:The first time you meet Alan, he's getting fitted for the tux for the wedding.
Speaker B:He's like, hey, man, It just.
Speaker B:It's perfect setup.
Speaker B:And then they let him.
Speaker B:The dad lets him borrow the car, and it's like this thing.
Speaker B:And he's just like, oh, God, appreciate you taking Alan with you.
Speaker B:You know, he's so excited or whatnot.
Speaker B:And Alan trying to be.
Speaker B:Bradley Cooper's character the whole time, like, waving of his hair.
Speaker B:Oh, dude, it's great.
Speaker B:And then, like, he's just.
Speaker B:Complete and utter awkwardness.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:It's a satchel.
Speaker B:You're not wearing that out.
Speaker B:He's standing there being all weird.
Speaker B:Who let the dogs out?
Speaker B:Who.
Speaker B:Who.
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker B:Are we watching it?
Speaker B:Just the first 15 minutes.
Speaker B:You're like, what is going on?
Speaker A:Well, this movie does a good job as well of like circling back to itself.
Speaker A:So you have the satchel joke that happens, right?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:And then later you have.
Speaker A:It's like, it's like, no, it's a purse.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, I need my purse.
Speaker A:And so you have the.
Speaker A:The inverse of that.
Speaker A:It doesn't play out for like an hour until Ken comes on screen.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker A:But from, from there, they.
Speaker A:It's like the longest setup of a punchline.
Speaker A:Because now you're going back to where, you know, because I don't think Bradley Cooper ever really calls it a purse.
Speaker A:He just asked him, like, what he's doing with it.
Speaker A:Like, and, and the, the unspoken kind of thing it within that scene is he's gonna call the purse.
Speaker A:Like, that's his character 100.
Speaker A:You know, I've seen this joke before.
Speaker A:And they leave it hanging for like an hour and a half until Ken comes on.
Speaker A:He straight up is like, no, I. I need my purse.
Speaker B:Oh, can we just talk about the greatest introduction of an actor that was never meant to be an actor in the history of cinema.
Speaker B:And like, what a career that this movie launched for him.
Speaker B:Oh, Ken Jong, dude.
Speaker B:Like, the guy's everywhere now.
Speaker B:And he's a funny son of a.
Speaker B:His stand up's great.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:I watched him once.
Speaker B:They had him on, I think it was like either big noon kickoff, or like whatever the es.
Speaker A:College game day.
Speaker B:College game day.
Speaker B:I love you hoe.
Speaker B:No, it's her last name.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, about his wife.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:He's so funny.
Speaker B:But, dude, when they open that trunk and he jumps out and he's naked and he starts beating.
Speaker B:Oh, you want to.
Speaker B:On me, like.
Speaker B:And he's just beating the.
Speaker B:Out of Phil.
Speaker B:And like, dude, I.
Speaker B:That moment spilled popcorn.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:I was, like, laughing so hard I couldn't breathe because it just comes out of nowhere.
Speaker B:And I think that's what this movie is.
Speaker B:So randomly, it has this perfect through line, but it's all random and it's hilarious and weird and, like, unexpected.
Speaker B:So it just lands perfectly every time.
Speaker B:But God damn, Ken Jong was one of the funniest.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:When you start to like, okay, this movie's getting repetitive.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, it's just weird after weird shit after weird shit.
Speaker B:They bring Ken Jong in and it resets it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Or you bring in Heather Graham with the.
Speaker B:Like, whose kid this whole thing is?
Speaker B:Or you bring the baby in in general.
Speaker B:They just keep throwing these little nuggets of like, okay, where are they gonna go?
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's just.
Speaker A:Okay, we're turning left now.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it still kind of connects or it furthers the story along.
Speaker A:And so, like, you have the baby.
Speaker A:That could just be a random gag they throw in there, but the baby helps them uncover more their night because, you know, they're.
Speaker A:They're having to track through everything and they.
Speaker A:Each.
Speaker A:Each little thing connects.
Speaker A:The docs.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so it's.
Speaker A:It's like you said, it's randomness with that through line because every.
Speaker A:Every seemingly random point is connected.
Speaker A:The story, it's another branch they connect in with.
Speaker A:Not a lot of telegraphing, which is impressive as well, is you don't know where they're gonna go with it, but they always find a way to bring it back that feels natural.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, and that's the other thing I love about it is no matter how outlandish it gets, like, they make it feel like it's believable.
Speaker B:Like the whole, they steal a cop car.
Speaker B:Are you me, you're going to jail.
Speaker B:But instead, these goofy ass cops are like, you can just be our taser guys.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:It's that whole, like, well, how do we steal your car?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, type of thing.
Speaker B:Like, yeah.
Speaker A:You know, you don't want to be the guys who lost their car because we'll tell everybody.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, we'll make it known that you guys are the ones that lost Your car.
Speaker A:And so then it, it, it allows for this hilarious scene with the.
Speaker A:Oh my God, like, dude, straight up, just rob.
Speaker A:Wriggle.
Speaker B:Dude kills it.
Speaker B:Five minutes in the movie and he kills it.
Speaker B:He's so good.
Speaker A:Such a great performance.
Speaker A:But just.
Speaker A:He was having the time of his life hyping up these little third graders to get excited about teasing and just random, random guys that.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, 20 minutes ago.
Speaker B:It's amazing, dude.
Speaker B:I still to this day use the.
Speaker B:In the face.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker A:And you knew it too.
Speaker A:You miss a little kid calmly raises his hand in the back and just walks up, just cool as a cucumber.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:And then just keeps pointing the taser higher.
Speaker B:Look at, look at this little guy's still going.
Speaker B:Get him again.
Speaker B:It's such a great.
Speaker A:Sometimes you need two shots to bring down these big boys.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker A:It is really good.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:It doesn't like, even though he's not in the movie, right?
Speaker A:Justin Bar.
Speaker A:He's not in this movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's no argument that could be said he's in this movie.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he still is such a central part to it that for me, on the first time anyway, I'm.
Speaker A:I don't know where he is.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:Never my wildest dreams.
Speaker A:Am I thinking the roof?
Speaker A:No, no, not.
Speaker A:Not thinking that he's stuck up on the roof.
Speaker A:And for being in this movie for like two and a half minutes and 90 seconds of that is on the security tape at, you know, freaking Mike at Mike Tyson's house.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's such an important part of it that you're like actually invested in wanting him to be around.
Speaker A:Great actor, great character actor.
Speaker A:And you want him in the movie.
Speaker A:But is this, It's.
Speaker A:It's a weird thing because normally if you send someone off, it's.
Speaker A:It's your like two bit character.
Speaker A:I don't really care about him.
Speaker A:I could care less.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:With.
Speaker A:With Hangover and Justin Park.
Speaker A:Like, I want to, I want to find him because I want him back in the movie.
Speaker A:Because the little bits that we got were enough to make it interesting to, to be like, no, like, I'm invested now in these three stooges going out and finding their friend.
Speaker A:Like, I want to know what happens to him because this movie is one of those that it could have ended with not a happy ending.
Speaker B:Oh, for sure.
Speaker A:That would have been one of the left turns that they easily could have thrown at it to really go off the, the rails with it.
Speaker A:And get that shocking up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so you're kind of.
Speaker A:At least when I watch it still, I'm still like, where is he?
Speaker A:Because if I go long enough in between watches, I forget the finer points and the finer details.
Speaker A:And so it's.
Speaker A:It's that kind of like, dude, where.
Speaker A:Where is their friend?
Speaker A:Like, I want you guys to find your buddy.
Speaker A:I want you guys to find your friend.
Speaker A:Because as, you know, hard or terrible as their experience going through it is, like.
Speaker A:And as easy as is to hate these guys, you want them to succeed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, you want Ed Helms to go find his courage and, you know, Bradley Cooper to find his heart, and Zach Galvanak is to find his brain.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, you know, Jay Bartage happens to be their Dorothy that they're looking for.
Speaker A:And so it's very.
Speaker A:It's very.
Speaker A:We use this term before.
Speaker A:It's very intelligent humor, but it's wrapped up in absolute ridiculousness.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, are you me.
Speaker B:And that's why, like, when they first come out and they're having breakfast or whatever, and the dude's gagging, and he starts making the baby jerk itself off, and he's like.
Speaker B:They open the door, that smacks the baby in the face.
Speaker B:Like, I'm just like, oh, my God, I shouldn't be laughing at this, but this is funny right now.
Speaker B:Like, I'm a twisted bastard, but I can't help myself.
Speaker B:And I. I love that you talk about Justin Bartha because he was, like, outside of, like, Heather Graham and some of these other small.
Speaker B:It's interesting because the biggest actors in this movie at the time were the.
Speaker B:The bit actors, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:The dad, Justin Bartha, Heather Graham, all these people.
Speaker B:Even Rob Riggle was more famous than most of the three leads at the time.
Speaker B:All that freaking, you know, Zach Alpha.
Speaker B:And I guess I didn't even know who the he was when this movie started.
Speaker B:I knew Ed Helms, but only because he'd been in some comedic.
Speaker B:In the office.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:But even that, he was like.
Speaker B:He wasn't like a major character in that side.
Speaker A:Character.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then what's his face?
Speaker B:Bradley Cooper.
Speaker B:The biggest thing he'd done was Wedding Crashers before that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Like, and he was.
Speaker A:He was kind of a bit part in there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He was just the villain.
Speaker B:Boyfriend.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Or whatever.
Speaker B:Fiance.
Speaker B:And so this movie, like, took these three and made them household names for.
Speaker B:Well, and I mean, you look at Bradley Cooper.
Speaker B:Jesus Christ, this dude's winning Oscars.
Speaker B:Direct movies.
Speaker B:Like, it's crazy.
Speaker A:Well, you look at Zach Galifianakis.
Speaker A:He's still hauling onto the hangover.
Speaker B:Well, sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He said, see.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, he didn't like.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And even at Helms doesn't do much now, but for a while, man, these three were hot to trot.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:It's so interesting because to get people to this movie, they advertise Justin Bartha, who was fresh off of another movie we've done with what you call it.
Speaker B:Why can't it.
Speaker A:The National Treasure.
Speaker B:National Treasure, plus a couple other things that he had done.
Speaker B:So everybody's like, oh.
Speaker B:And then you're like, oh, Heather Graham's in this.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Well, there's some big people in this.
Speaker B:And then you're like, wait, they're only this for two minutes, but this movie is great.
Speaker B:This is funny as hell.
Speaker A:Well, it's interesting, too, because you're just popping in my head, because we also did Failure to Launch, which had Bradley Cooper, Justin Bartholomew as friends, and I think that was around this time, maybe a little bit before.
Speaker A:So you almost have them.
Speaker A:You know, you have a.
Speaker A:A pairing that, you know, works really well if it's coming after Failure to Launch.
Speaker A:And then you're like, okay, cool.
Speaker A:We know these two work really well together.
Speaker A:So we're going to have one in the movie the entire time and one in the movie for 50 seconds.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B: Failure to launch,: Speaker B:So about three years before.
Speaker A:About three years before.
Speaker A:So that's hilarious to me, because you have a pairing that works.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you're.
Speaker A:Then you're like, yeah, you know what?
Speaker A:Actually, we're gonna pivot a little bit, and we're gonna.
Speaker A:You know, Justin Bartha, you actually don't have to be in this movie at all.
Speaker B:Yeah, he was also in.
Speaker B:I guess he's just not that into you.
Speaker B: The same year,: Speaker B:Okay, it was all right.
Speaker B:But nothing that launched him, but, boy, was he big after this.
Speaker B:God damn, this movie's funny.
Speaker B:As though.
Speaker B:I. I'm telling you, like, there's some lines that I still quote to this day, years later.
Speaker B:And, like, the.
Speaker B:And can we just talk about the resurgence of Mike Tyson after this, too?
Speaker B:Like, all of a sudden, he was back in the limelight, fresh out of jail not long before.
Speaker B:And, you know, and nobody.
Speaker B:And all of a sudden he comes in and, dude, when he hits Stu.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Or not Stu.
Speaker B:When he hits Zach Galifianakis.
Speaker B:Dude.
Speaker B:Funniest ever.
Speaker B:Like, that song.
Speaker B:Like, the whole.
Speaker B:The Whole setup.
Speaker B:All right, guys, sing it with me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then as soon as he thumps him and the way he hits the ground, it's so perfect.
Speaker A:Well, then it gets even better because you get back to the house and watch the security tape.
Speaker A:See how these doofuses are just, you know, not, not doing anything you want to do when Mike Tyson is within arm's length of you.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Just, just like Alvinakis.
Speaker A:So I should like wait outside then?
Speaker A:Yeah, that'd be best as.
Speaker A:Because he's being in the pool.
Speaker A:It's great.
Speaker A:But just so nonchalant.
Speaker A:Just off the cuff, like.
Speaker A:So I should just, you know, like go it outside then, I guess.
Speaker A:And it's, it's.
Speaker A:And Mike Tyson's great because he's got that very kind of soft spoken voice.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is in direct odds to.
Speaker A:Oh him as a per, as a fighter in the ring and you know, just absolute mayhem and murder when he gets out in the ring.
Speaker A:But very soft spoken, very polite person.
Speaker A:So it's such a, you know, back and forth conundrum.
Speaker A:Because this is one of the first times where you're actually seeing him as a person and not as a fighter.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because 80s, late 80s, early 90s, he's just fighting.
Speaker A:And so any interview that he's doing is like coming fresh out of the ring or going into the ring.
Speaker A:And so it's all game, all focus.
Speaker A:And so to realize that, oh no, he's, he's funny, he's got comedy that he can pull out and play along with and this.
Speaker A:And then, then he gets more bit parts and more movies because he is a very funny human being that is in direct contact contrast of what the public opinion is of him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is he's a stone cold killer.
Speaker A:Because it's, it's that, it's that mindset of, you know, when he's in the ring, he's in the ring and it's just such a well played kind of dynamic to have him come on and be a joker.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A: I didn't see in theaters but: Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:You gotta think that, oh, this is the fight scene.
Speaker A:Yeah, this is gonna be great.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then it turns out to be one of the more funny parts of the movie.
Speaker B:Mm.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker B:And I love to how they play that very thing in this film.
Speaker B:Like when they first see him, he's like, is that Mike Tyson?
Speaker B:And then they're like, all geeking out, right?
Speaker B:Then they realize that he's pissed.
Speaker B:And they're like, oh, shit.
Speaker B:And then he fucking hits.
Speaker B:What's his fate?
Speaker B:And you're like, oh, God, Alan.
Speaker B:He knocks his at.
Speaker B:You're like, oh, shit.
Speaker B:Then he puts his ultimatum.
Speaker B:And so there's this level of, like, awe and inspiration of like, dude, this is Mike Tyson, one of the greatest boxers ever to live.
Speaker B:He hates us, but he's so nice, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Until he.
Speaker B:So it's just this really interesting conundrum that they have themselves in.
Speaker B:And then he's all joking with them when they go back to take the tiger back.
Speaker B:Which also, by the way, in the tunnel, pushing the car with the tiger in it.
Speaker B:Hilarious.
Speaker B:When the tiger wakes up.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, dude.
Speaker B:So funny.
Speaker B:So funny.
Speaker B:Just rips that car to shreds and.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, it's great.
Speaker A:Oh, it's so great, too, because later you get to see, like, how they got the tiger away.
Speaker A:Tiger's like, just chill and going for it.
Speaker A:So they play this back and forth once again with this tiger.
Speaker A:It's like, now the tight.
Speaker A:The tiger's probably hungover is what the thing is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so, you know, just hun.
Speaker A:Over and then waking up after being drugged.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So you have this back and forth again because, you know, watch that.
Speaker A:You're like, how do these idiots get this tiger?
Speaker A:Like, and then you watch the tape and tigers just.
Speaker A:They're just walking it on a leash and open the door, and then it.
Speaker A:And it pops and just takes a nap.
Speaker A:And so it's.
Speaker A:It's really well thought out.
Speaker A:And ev.
Speaker A:There's like two sides to every coin in their skin, if that makes any sense.
Speaker A:And so there's always a.
Speaker A:There's always a reason or a playback or an opposite that balances everything out, which is just so great and nice to see.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then the last one that I always want to talk about is when.
Speaker B:And this is where the movie set me off.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Like, I lost.
Speaker B:It was when you get all the introduction, you meet the characters, which they were funny.
Speaker B:I giggled.
Speaker B:I was like, okay, this is doing all right.
Speaker B:But then when they're in the car driving to Vegas, he's.
Speaker B:He's reading the blackjack book, and they're like, what are you doing?
Speaker B:He's like, well, I'm learning how to count cards.
Speaker B:I'm gonna count cars.
Speaker B:He's like, alan, that's Very difficult to do.
Speaker B:And he's like, rayman did it, and he's a dude.
Speaker B:I lost my.
Speaker B:Because that shouldn't be as funny as it is, but to me, it just.
Speaker B:I was like, you can't say that word anymore.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Way he said it, and he just was.
Speaker B:No apology.
Speaker B:Like, you can't even be mad at him because he's an idiot.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:And you're like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:And I. I seriously lost my.
Speaker B:And then when they almost get in the accident and it's, oh, dude.
Speaker B:Like that, when they got in the car and they're driving, that was when I realized, okay, this movie's gonna kill me.
Speaker B:And it sure as boy I tears.
Speaker B: a row with other movies out,: Speaker B:Oh, God, it got me.
Speaker B:It was funny.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's that the recurring theme that we have is the relatability.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:So that car conversation like that happens soon as your buddy starts.
Speaker A:You're on a road trip, Buddy pulls out a book, and you're like, what?
Speaker A:Well, first of all, what the hell are you doing?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And then second, he's like, I. I'm gonna learn how to count cards.
Speaker A:It's like, dude, you can't count to 20 with shoes on.
Speaker A:What do you mean?
Speaker A:And so it's just that back and forth and then throwing in, like, the.
Speaker A:Well, that's illegal.
Speaker A:Well, no, you get caught.
Speaker A:Every single person knows someone like that who's like, oh, yeah, it's super easy.
Speaker A:Just count cards.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, with the multiple decks that are in these machines, with how frequently the decks and machines changed out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So funny.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, and then the fact that they come back with it and they actually put the Rain man scene in there, it's just.
Speaker B:It's too good.
Speaker B:It's too good.
Speaker B:I should rate it.
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker B:All right, this one's mine.
Speaker B:I don't think.
Speaker B:It's hard to know where I'm going with this.
Speaker B:I I on it.
Speaker B:Like, this is up there is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen still to this day.
Speaker B:It's relatable, it's silly, it's outlandish, ridiculous.
Speaker B:All of those things wrapped into this just perfect conflagration of things that should not work.
Speaker B:And a story that I and I mentioned Yesterday, the last time we recorded.
Speaker B:Like, I don't love a movie that doesn't have a through line.
Speaker B:This is one that barely has a through line because they're trying to find their friend Doug.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, if it didn't have that, this movie's all over the place.
Speaker B:And I struggle with it, but I don't.
Speaker B:I don't struggle with this movie at all because.
Speaker B:And you mentioned it, somehow they find a way to tie all of these very disparate pieces of story and app and happenings and things like that together to where it makes sense.
Speaker B:And you go, I could see some of this happening, and some of it's so over the top, but I could see, like, a small version of it happening.
Speaker B:Maybe you don't actually steal the cop car, but you try.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Maybe you don't actually get stuck on the roof, but you can't find the guy because he's in a hotel room with some other girl down the road and doesn't have his phone or whatever it is.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So I just love that it's relatable.
Speaker B:But the fact that I laugh as hard as I can laugh every time I watch this movie, I'm giving it a five.
Speaker B:It's one of the funniest comedies, I think, out there.
Speaker B:So, yeah, this one's great.
Speaker A:All right, I'm gonna be right there with you.
Speaker A:So five as well.
Speaker A:For me, it's.
Speaker A:It's interesting, I think, where.
Speaker A:Because we.
Speaker A:We've used this term almost this point overly much, but Lightning in a bottle.
Speaker A:But I wonder if it had something to do with the way they wrote the story or the way the story plays out, because they don't have any kind of backstory.
Speaker A:You're waking up in Vegas, essentially, with the characters not having any clue.
Speaker A:So then from there, you're all.
Speaker A:You're writing forward.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So you can take these branches and kind of go.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So they don't know what's going on in the movie.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:We haven't shown the audience anything.
Speaker A:They don't know what's going on either.
Speaker A:So we can kind of write this story from start to finish, but we're beginning it in the middle.
Speaker A:And so we have all the advantages of being able to tie this back in because they do such a phenomenal job.
Speaker A:And it is great.
Speaker A:And it is.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:It's not necessarily one that I'm gonna say, oh, hey, we should watch the Hangover.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not gonna watch it on repeat.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:But I sit down and watch this dude, it just crack up because it is so good and so funny.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'll be a five for me.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker B:That's a good call out.
Speaker B:The, the level of the fact that you don't have any dramatic irony because we don't know what happened.
Speaker B:No, not just like the characters.
Speaker B:So we're all along this ride with them so we feel like we're part.
Speaker B:That's a good call out.
Speaker B:It's very true.
Speaker B:There's no dramatic irony because we don't know where it is.
Speaker B:And, and it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That's a good call out.
Speaker A:If we want to compare it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:We take Super Troopers last week, which doesn't have a through line.
Speaker A:But at the same time, you know what's happening throughout the entire story.
Speaker A:You have this, you know, third person overlook that you're able to see and view versus in this, you have nothing to go off of.
Speaker A:Yeah, you are pretty much, you know, the fourth wall is just.
Speaker A:You're following them around as they're going and just observing.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's a good call out.
Speaker B:I do love too.
Speaker B:Before I set you off to wrap it up, the fact that they take the camera shots of these dumbasses act because they cut them loose in Vegas and they took pictures.
Speaker B:They didn't record anything and do any filming, but those pictures that they show are real.
Speaker B:Like those dumbasses, they got them drunk, they got them up.
Speaker B:They cut them loose in Vegas because they were three nobodies at the time.
Speaker B:Not really anybody that would.
Speaker B:So you're running around Vegas where half the people are ripped anyway and don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And yeah, so they, they, they talked about they cut these three loose and they got all up, gave them a big budget to go drink and do dumb.
Speaker B:And they had a producer following around taking pictures of them doing Dumbass.
Speaker B:And all those pictures at the end where the camera and I love that C2 1 look.
Speaker B:Oh, just because I could see that I would, I would be terrified if I had a night because I had some nights in Vegas where I'm like a good thing.
Speaker B:There's no proof of what happened this weekend.
Speaker B:Cause that was wild.
Speaker B:So anyway, when we're not talking about Vegas in the Hangover, where else can they find us, Alec?
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