The American President (1995)
The central theme of this podcast episode revolves around the nuanced examination of the film "The American President," a cinematic work that intertwines romance with political drama. We delve into the complexities of the film's narrative, discussing its portrayal of a widowed U.S. President engaging in an illicit relationship with an environmental lobbyist. This film, penned by the esteemed Aaron Sorkin and directed by Rob Reiner, raises pertinent questions about the intersection of personal and political lives in the public sphere. Throughout our discourse, we reflect on the implications of the evolving political landscape, noting how contemporary events render certain scenarios less awkward than they may have appeared at the time of the film's release. The episode culminates in a critical analysis of the film's strengths and limitations, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of its significance in both cinematic and political contexts.
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We just watched the movie where he was worried about dating her.
Speaker A:The current president was getting his in the White House while he's married.
Speaker B:Times are changing.
Speaker A:All of a sudden this movie doesn't feel so awkward.
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Speaker B:Environmentalist.
Speaker A:Yeah, maybe, sure.
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Speaker A:But yeah, look, we're.
Speaker A:We're in the final week of July.
Speaker A:We're in the final week of our patriotic movies, if you will.
Speaker A:Kicking it off with could be the arguably the most patriotic film.
Speaker A:Maybe I think we'll discuss this.
Speaker A:I parts of it are the most patriotic film that we've done.
Speaker A:Others not so much.
Speaker A:But with that we're doing American President.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:It was written by Aaron Sorkin.
Speaker A:Shocker.
Speaker A:It was directed by Rob Reiner.
Speaker A:Shocker number two.
Speaker A:It stars Michael Douglas, Annette Benning, Martin Sheen, Michael J.
Speaker A:Fox, Anna de Vere Smith, Samantha Mathis, Shauna Waldron, David Pamer, Richard Dreyfus and Wendy Malik.
Speaker A:It's about a widowed US President running for re election and an environmental.
Speaker A:Environmental lobbyist who fall in love with.
Speaker A:It's all above board but politics is perception and sparks fly.
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Speaker A:This is my movie, my pick.
Speaker A:I was kind of surprised, like, had you seen this before, Alex?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which I'm surprised about because it's got a great cast.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think it just kind of flew under the radar for me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't think actually.
Speaker B:No, I know what it was because this threw me for a loop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's taglined as a rom com.
Speaker B:Oh, that's romantic comedy on Amazon.
Speaker B:I don't know if that's just Amazon doing that if something.
Speaker B:But that, that could have been the reason because if I saw the American President, the COVID doesn't do it very no justice about.
Speaker B:I'd be like, no thanks.
Speaker A:You know, this is wild.
Speaker A:So I'm sitting here on IMDb looking at it, right?
Speaker A:And it's got it listed as 4, 5 tags.
Speaker A:Political drama, romantic comedy, comedy, drama and romance.
Speaker B:And see, yeah, the only one I could really get behind them.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a little wonky.
Speaker B:That tagline is probably what just like, eh, no thank you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I picked this for a couple reasons.
Speaker A:One, it fits the theme very well.
Speaker A:Two, it's one of Casey's all time favorite movies.
Speaker A:Like if you were to ask like I'd guess that.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like if you were to look at like ask her like top 10, this would be in there somewhere.
Speaker A:Maybe even top five.
Speaker A:She wants.
Speaker A:We own this.
Speaker A:She wants to watch it all the time.
Speaker A:And look, I'll be honest.
Speaker A:I like this movie.
Speaker A:There are parts I don't like and it's ironic because the parts you were talking about, like the reason that you probably have avoided it with the tag of romantic comedy.
Speaker A:I don't get the comedy so much part as far as that.
Speaker A:But the romance is definitely there.
Speaker A:And it's my least favorite part of the.
Speaker A:The film.
Speaker A:Like I could have completely and utterly done without it.
Speaker A:Meaning, like you can't to a certain degree because it's the, you know, the crux of the whole situation.
Speaker A:I can't think of the film word that they use for it, but, like, you know, it's that thing that's at the center.
Speaker A:And the reason that's causing all the problems is the romance.
Speaker A:But the romance is the least interesting part to me.
Speaker A:The most interesting part of this film for me is Michael J.
Speaker A:Fox and, like, the surrounding characters that, like.
Speaker A:And here's what's funny is not long after this movie, you know, we.
Speaker A:We got Sheen, who played one of the best presidents in film and TV ever, in the West Wing.
Speaker A:So also written by this same team of.
Speaker A:Well, by team, I mean Aaron Sorkin, who loves to do his political stuff.
Speaker A:He also did the Newsroom, which is one of Casey's favorite TV shows, if not all time favorite TV show.
Speaker A:So he's very good at these.
Speaker A:And it's well written, great dialogue, like you said, amazing cast.
Speaker A:But I just think it gets lost.
Speaker A:And it wants to be a romance, and then it wants to be a political movie, and then it wants to be a little bit of both.
Speaker A:And so sometimes I get, like, whiplash watching this movie.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, which scene am I in?
Speaker A:Okay, I gotta be in my romance bag for this one.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I gotta be in my political, you know, thing for this one.
Speaker A:And so it's just like, there's so much to it that I'm like.
Speaker A:But there are a lot of great things about this movie, which is why I picked it.
Speaker A:And again, it fit the theme very well.
Speaker A:So first timer, what'd you think?
Speaker B:Because, like you said, there are parts that are really, really good that I really enjoyed.
Speaker B:And there are comedic moments.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:But they're.
Speaker B:They're mostly the beginning.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, I love the fact he comes off the elevator or whatever it is, and there's Michael J.
Speaker B:Fox.
Speaker B:Like, you.
Speaker B:You left out a paragraph.
Speaker B:And then walking around the White House, he's, you know, got his retainers and everything, like, telling him what to say, who to say, who he's talking to, and all this stuff.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:This army that keeps the presidency going.
Speaker B:Yeah, really cool.
Speaker B:I think they did a good job portraying that.
Speaker B:And then the romance parts, I think they overdid it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I think the state dinner is one of the best scenes in the entire movie.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Well, you know, she shows up.
Speaker B:She should be completely out of her element.
Speaker B:She's not.
Speaker B:She owns it.
Speaker B:She speaks French, apparently, like, out of the blue, this, you know, perfect, perfect scene.
Speaker B:And then you have a bunch of almost frivolous kind of dates.
Speaker B:Yeah, we'll say it's a good one.
Speaker B:And the, the running gag of like, he cannot for the life of him send her flowers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is like, was funny, but it not so funny that you keep it going for the whole movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it was telegraphed to the point where I was like, oh, yeah, they're driving.
Speaker B:Guess I guess where he's going to go because he can't make dinner.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And then like there was just other parts of it with the whole back and forth with the character battle or whatever.
Speaker B:I can't remember what they classified it as.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, parts of that I was like, okay, like, makes sense.
Speaker B:And other parts, like, hey, you're even reaching for a Hollywood movie here.
Speaker B:There's a better way to go around it.
Speaker B:So it was a tricky one for me because I liked it at what face value was and what it presented as a, as a backdrop.
Speaker B:And then it was just like some things they did with this backdrop.
Speaker B:I was like, I feel like you could have gone a better way to make it better.
Speaker B:And so it was, it was a nice first time Watch.
Speaker B:Don't mind it.
Speaker B:I'm glad I watched it.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:But it was also up there as like, okay, I, I missed out not watching this before, but I don't think I missed out like all that much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:If that makes any sense.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, it's not, it's not for me, a life changing movie that now that I've seen it, it's immediately going to go to the top of my list.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, I agree.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:You made some very good points.
Speaker A:And I will say, when it comes to Aaron Sorkin, like, when I think back on what he's done, like.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:A Few Good Men, like, or like even West Wing to a degree, like, there's very little romance in the West Wing.
Speaker A:There's some.
Speaker A:But like he wrote Moneyball, Charlie Wilson's War, he even wrote the Social Network.
Speaker A:Like the things that he does, Molly's Game, like the ones that he does, the, where he sticks to the draw, the dramatic or he fully leans on, like in Newsroom, there's a ton of comedy.
Speaker A:And so it's like when he leans into one thing, but this one where he tries to do more than one thing, he struggles.
Speaker A:It's like he's so good at like the political and like the.
Speaker A:He's so good at it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Show me more of buying votes.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker B:Show me more of that.
Speaker A:Isn't it great?
Speaker A:Like, I love that part where The.
Speaker A:You have the dichotomy of this lobbyist that's working to get votes.
Speaker A:And then you have the president and his, you know, entourage, like you said, working to get boats.
Speaker A:And like, when.
Speaker A:When.
Speaker A:And I listen, I'll say Michael J.
Speaker A:Fox steals this movie for me, like, every time he's in it.
Speaker A:And he's like, when he loses his.
Speaker A:On that senator over the phone, like, I think he's a no.
Speaker B:Well, what's.
Speaker B:That's some of the greatest comedy in the movie because then you got the numbers nerd.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I'm glad it's a no.
Speaker B:Otherwise we have to work on our people skills.
Speaker B:Such a beautiful line where I was just dying because he just delivered it perfectly.
Speaker B:And it fits so well with that actor.
Speaker B:And in the role he's in is this kind of sarcastic numbers cruncher.
Speaker A:Y.
Speaker B:And just.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Lecturing.
Speaker B:Pretty much the speechwriter and, you know, everything on how to talk to people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Isn't it great?
Speaker B:Which is so perfect.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:David Pamer, he's.
Speaker A:Or Leon Kodak, he's so funny in this movie.
Speaker A:I. I don't know.
Speaker A:Like, I want to love this movie like Casey does, but I think one.
Speaker A:I'm not a huge Annette Benning fan.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But that's on me.
Speaker A:She's a phenomenal actress.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, that's not anything against her.
Speaker A:She just.
Speaker A:I'm just not a fan.
Speaker A:Like, I don't know.
Speaker A:She always comes across very, like, holier than thou to me.
Speaker A:But that again, that's a me perception thing.
Speaker B:Like, she switches what she's doing in the same role.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She starts off super bubbly and friendly when you first meet her, talking to White House guards.
Speaker B:Everything like, okay, cool.
Speaker B:But then she does adopt a little bit of that.
Speaker B:Holier than that, like, you're talking about.
Speaker A:Yeah, well.
Speaker A:And I. I will say that there are scenes that she does.
Speaker A:Like the phone scene when he first calls her and he thinks it's her dude, like, pranking her.
Speaker A:Like, that makes me laugh every time because I could see myself doing that.
Speaker A:And then he's like, okay, I want you to call this number.
Speaker A:She's like, the look on her face.
Speaker A:I'm like, I've had that face so many times.
Speaker A:Like, where you're just like, God damn it, I did it again.
Speaker A:So, like, that's.
Speaker A:And I think that's where I appreciate her.
Speaker A:Like, she's not my favorite actress, but when she's on, like, she does well.
Speaker A:And then like, even like this, the funny scene That I don't love, except for like when she walks out of the bathroom and just his shirt or whatever.
Speaker A:And he's like having this like crisis of.
Speaker A:Crisis of confidence.
Speaker A:And he's like talking about, you know, it's been a while and look, there's no pressure.
Speaker A:And then he turns around and she's like.
Speaker A:He's like, well, part gets me going too.
Speaker A:Even the part where his daughter like, plays like the Hail to the Chief on the trombone as he's walking out because he's been busting her ass about and like the Constitution.
Speaker A:But I think, Yeah, I just think to your point, like, they get lost trying to be both, like, have the comedy, the row, and I guess maybe all three trying to be funny.
Speaker A:If it was just the dramatic, mostly the dramatic, you know, political aspect plus the funny, I could probably deal with it.
Speaker A:But then you take the political aspect funny and the romance, that just doesn't.
Speaker A:They just all don't work to me at the same time.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:They don't have enough screen time to make it work.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, so the political drama, right.
Speaker B:You can combine that with comedy all day long because it fits.
Speaker B:High stress environment, round the clock stuff.
Speaker B:You can throw in these one liners, these zippers, and you'll be fine.
Speaker B:The promise they tried to make the.
Speaker B:The romance too big.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker B:And it kind of takes over, overtakes, becomes a catalyst for the political drama.
Speaker B:But it, it doesn't really fit.
Speaker B:So you can still have the romance, but use it almost as an accent piece to your political drama rather than trying to bring it in as a major plot point.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because now we get the scenes where, you know, vacationing at Camp David and the cheesy ass, corny line.
Speaker B:You ever been to Camp David?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Nobody's been to Camp David.
Speaker B:Mr. President.
Speaker B:What kind of stupid ass question.
Speaker A:Yeah, for real.
Speaker A:You're trying to be charming, but you missed the point.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Like there's a couple of those things flying, flying left and right across here.
Speaker B:I was like, ah, no.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:But then you had really cool.
Speaker B:These, you know, romance moments where you can see that he's falling for.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Like I talked about the state dinner, and even when she, you know, busts his ass the first time, doesn't know he's there.
Speaker B:And then they have this moment, this private kind of conversation, let's go out to dinner or whatever, let's talk about this.
Speaker B:So you get these moments that make sense, but then it's.
Speaker B:It's overshadowed too much.
Speaker B:And so by the time you get to the end where, again, one of my favorite parts is when they're having their little moment, the Oval Office, and Lewis comes in, and then I forget the other two actions that come in, but they both come in.
Speaker B:It's like, hi, Mr. President.
Speaker B:Hi.
Speaker B:Salt's commonplace now and so funny.
Speaker B:Great.
Speaker B:But after the journey of the song I had to get to with all this extra romance that I was not a fan of.
Speaker B:It was like, ah, okay, good.
Speaker B:We're wrapping up now.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:So I think they could have done a better job with inserting the romance into a political drama instead of trying to turn a very entertaining premise into a romance movie.
Speaker A:Yeah, I agree completely.
Speaker A:Love what you just said.
Speaker A:Pick one lane and stay there.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:You can cross over a little bit, but don't be driving in the middle.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can.
Speaker A:You can let some chickens cross your lanes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Little.
Speaker A:Don't take the dirt road when you get there.
Speaker A:Yeah, I will say that again.
Speaker A:And I mentioned him earlier, but Martin Sheen, along with Michael J.
Speaker A:Fox, absolutely steal this, like, and it, you know, and all I can see when I see Martin Sheen, like, it's weird to see him in a supporting role because he's so good and so for him.
Speaker A:But I also understand why they had to hire someone like him.
Speaker A:Because Michael Douglas is like, nobody.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, so you gotta have somebody that can go to, like in the.
Speaker A:The pool scene, like when they're playing pool and they're having that whole conversation, he's like, aj, you were the best man at my wedding.
Speaker A:You can call me.
Speaker A:You can call me whatever name Andy.
Speaker A:He's like, yes, sir, Mr. President.
Speaker A:But you have to have somebody that can go toe to toe with Michael Douglas.
Speaker A:And it's, you know, someone.
Speaker A:You need someone like a Martin Sheen.
Speaker A:But at the same time, like those moments where he steps in, like, with.
Speaker A:With Michael J.
Speaker A:Fox's character and he's, you know, he has to, like, try to cool the room off.
Speaker A:Like, I love that he's that level head in the room at all times, like, trying to keep everybody.
Speaker A:And he's trying to tell him not to do this, but then he's trying to tell.
Speaker A:And you know that he had to, like, mark it as your ch.
Speaker A:Staff.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:But as your friend, you know, here's what you.
Speaker A:I'd say give her a call.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And so it's like, I love those.
Speaker A:And I think that's what I love about these movies.
Speaker A:And this probably goes back to most of Aaron Sorkin's writing is where he shines the most to me, and this movie is proof positive is the little moments like.
Speaker A:And this is where I go back to.
Speaker A:We've talked a lot about.
Speaker A:Like, what's the.
Speaker A:That did the D.C. zack Snyder.
Speaker B:Zack Snyder.
Speaker A:I about.
Speaker B:Popular topic on this podcast.
Speaker A:He is a popular.
Speaker A:I love to.
Speaker A:On Zack Snyder, but I've talked a ton about Zack Snyder and the fact that he shoots for moments, right?
Speaker A:Like, he wants these powerful moments.
Speaker A:And then you have writers, to me, that are genius, like Aaron Sorkin, who they.
Speaker A:They film.
Speaker A:They write movies for scenes.
Speaker A:And those scenes include moments, right?
Speaker A:Like, again, playing pool.
Speaker A:It's just two guys that have known each other obviously a very long time, are great friends, are in these positions of power, and they have this really, if you think about it, kind of trivial situation happening that's creating these massive ripples of drama and problems for a very serious person, like an office and what they're doing.
Speaker A:But you have this very cool scene of them playing pool and getting in a little friendly spat about something that's really kind of important to one person because he's been alone for so long in that way, and yet he still has to keep in mind that he's the President of the United States of America.
Speaker A:So he can't just do what he wants to do, unfortunately.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, he.
Speaker A:There's a.
Speaker A:There's a level of carefulness that he has to have.
Speaker A:And so that.
Speaker A:But that whole scene, to me.
Speaker A:And then you get the one like, you're talking about, like, where.
Speaker A:Or we talked about earlier, the phone.
Speaker A:The phone call that's awkward because she thinks he's getting pranked.
Speaker A:Like, that's another scene.
Speaker A:The scene where Michael J.
Speaker A:Fox tells him, like, you're my president.
Speaker A:You work for me.
Speaker A:Like, that speech to me is one of the greatest political speeches in a movie I've ever seen.
Speaker A:Like, and you can take that out like that.
Speaker A:Everybody should have to watch that scene where he's like, no, no, you work for me.
Speaker A:I voted for you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you have this office because of me.
Speaker A:And like, and then it's like, and you're not.
Speaker A:I love the line where he says, in the absence of leadership, they'll follow anybody.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, and that's so true and it's so applicable even today.
Speaker A: I mean, this movie is from: Speaker A:We're 30 years later, and this movie is still.
Speaker A:That is still as revelant, if not more relevant now than it ever has been even back then.
Speaker A:And so it's like the scene.
Speaker A:There are scenes in this movie That I think should be captured and people should watch constantly to remind themselves of these great points that are made and these really endearing pieces that you can.
Speaker A:Because it also helps you understand to a certain degree.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, the pressure that these people have to feel across the board, whether you're a lobbyist and you're, you know, you're paid to get boats for a certain thing, which should be illegal in my opinion, but that's their job.
Speaker A:Then you got president politicians that are running around and have to do these things and they're constantly being watched.
Speaker A:And I think one of the most poignant statements that's ever been made in history is, you know, FDR would have never made it if he had to be on tv.
Speaker A:It's a very different world we live in now.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And being in those positions, you, God, you're constantly under microscope, which is why we have so much corruption in the government and places like that.
Speaker A:Because they have to hide the.
Speaker A:They're really doing.
Speaker A:Because it's constantly being watched and filmed and written about.
Speaker A:And so if you don't lie and cheat and steal, you're gonna get caught.
Speaker A:And nope, not everybody's gonna like it.
Speaker A:And then it's a problem.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:I don't know, I just play the.
Speaker B:Game of Thrones or you die.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:That was a good one.
Speaker A:That was a good one.
Speaker A:But yeah, it's great scenes in this movie.
Speaker A:Some of the.
Speaker A:Some of the best.
Speaker A:Just some of the cohesiveness doesn't work between them.
Speaker A:Like, you're like, wait, what am I watching?
Speaker A:Romance.
Speaker A:Oh, wait, no, this is political drama.
Speaker A:Oh, wait, no, this is a comedy.
Speaker B:And then they dropped the bombshell like the Michael J.
Speaker B:Fox you're talking about.
Speaker B:But I love the follow up too.
Speaker B:The President does.
Speaker B:Talking about the desert.
Speaker B:Like, they're not drinking sand because they're thirsty.
Speaker B:They're doing it because they can't tell the difference.
Speaker B:And I was like, dude, yeah, still can't.
Speaker B:We have so many people in this country who for some stupid reason believe that the government is actually there to help them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hasn't been that way in a very long time.
Speaker B:Never really been that way.
Speaker B:But yeah, it's gotten a lot worse.
Speaker B:It used to be.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like they were trying to hide it a little bit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But it's gotten to that point where people are, you know, the government's gonna do this, government's gonna do that.
Speaker B:It's like the government doesn't care two things about you.
Speaker A:Yeah, not even.
Speaker B:So it's like those are the people that don't know the difference between water and sand.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker A:That's a good point.
Speaker B:It's just there.
Speaker B:It's just always the way that it's been.
Speaker B:And so you have this great, beautiful.
Speaker B:Almost like mic drop, as it were, of Michael J.
Speaker B:Fox giving this great speech of, like, this.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is why I voted for you.
Speaker B:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:And then you almost have Michael Douglas just drop it all back in his face and be like, no, you don't know any better.
Speaker B:Nobody knows the difference because, you know, I. I could give them sand and tell them it's water and.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Because they don't know what actual water is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so, you know, it's.
Speaker B:It's great.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Great writing, great scenes.
Speaker B:And then you have the stupid back and forth with the freaking.
Speaker B:What is it, the GDC or something?
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:And, you know, the.
Speaker B:The back and forth where you got the Republicans meeting in their mountain lodge about how they're gonna shame the president because of his alluring affair or whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then the.
Speaker B:I think the greatest thing where I was like, okay, yeah, that does happen, is where you had.
Speaker B:Was it Rum.
Speaker B:Sprinter or whatever.
Speaker A:Rumson.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, Bob Rumson.
Speaker B:It was like, yeah, we couldn't run a character smear three years ago because he just lost his wife.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Every single politician gonna be like, ha.
Speaker B:Vulnerable.
Speaker B:We're going for him now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A:In fact, they'll find a way to blame him for the fact that his wife died.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So, I mean, that's the struggle that I have with it because it's so great at points.
Speaker B:And then other times, I'm like, okay, well, that's five minutes I could have done without.
Speaker B:Because who cares if it's the Dish Room or the China Room?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Nobody cares.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:That's a good point.
Speaker A:I think, now that I think about it, and you say, like, the Dish Room and the China Room and all that shit, like, it makes me laugh because the flirting that Michael Douglas, like, for his.
Speaker A:Phenomenal of an actor.
Speaker A:And I'm sure he was doing it.
Speaker A:It was a choice that he made.
Speaker A:But his flirting in this is terrible.
Speaker A:I'm like.
Speaker A:Other than the fact that she's so completely awkward that it fits, like, which you get that point.
Speaker A:But you could have done that without, to your point, without that much of them being awkward together.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, we see that they're both terribly awkward, but they're both terribly like.
Speaker A:What's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker A:What's the opposite of inept?
Speaker A:Because in moments, they're completely inept.
Speaker A:Yeah, but they're.
Speaker A:They're so overly competent when it comes to doing the things they do.
Speaker A:Him being the president, him being a dad, her being a lobbyist, her understanding politics.
Speaker A:And, like, because even she was like, this is a bad idea for you.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, I want this, but this is a.
Speaker A:Like, she understands.
Speaker A:If I was running your campaign, I'd tell you to knock this off.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:But they're so inept at being together and, like, making.
Speaker A:Because of the awkwardness.
Speaker A:And I get what they were trying to do, but it just didn't work for me in.
Speaker A:When it's surrounded by all of this other phenomenal content and speeches and dialogue and in relationship building.
Speaker A:And so you're just like.
Speaker A:Because you're dropped in the middle of this.
Speaker A:This thing.
Speaker A:Like, you're four years in or almost four years into this, you know, register this administration, and they're getting ready to run this campaign, and you're.
Speaker A:You don't know any of these people, but 10 minutes into this movie, I'm like, oh, I'm rooting for him.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I. I'm not.
Speaker A:I'm not anything.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:But, like, I grew up around Republicans.
Speaker A:I'm pretty conservative dude in a lot of ways.
Speaker A:But I'm watching this going, let's go Democrat.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm voting for this dude.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And I, you know, because I like the people around him, but it's like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's just weird to me.
Speaker A:Like, he's terrible at flirting in this movie.
Speaker B:That's actually a really good point that you brought up about the inept and then the competence.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because something that.
Speaker B:A scene that really bugged, like, really bugged me was when he's tied up with Israel, right?
Speaker B:And the daughter comes out and says, no, he told me to tell you he's, you know, on the phone with his dentist.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because then he comes out and she already knows he's talking about C. Stan.
Speaker A:Or whatever it was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's like, okay, you.
Speaker B:You know, she knows stuff, right?
Speaker B:Like, she's competent.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker B:You have enough proof.
Speaker B:Even I can't remember if this happened before at this point, but to the point where she can read your face and she already knows when you're holding something back.
Speaker B:Just by looking at you.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Very, very smart, very intelligent.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know this already and you're still gonna pull the.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, I was talking to my dentist.
Speaker B:At nine o' clock at night.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Locked up in the freaking Oval Office or whatever.
Speaker A:Wherever I got.
Speaker B:I got a cavity up in my upper bicuspid region.
Speaker B:Like, shut the up.
Speaker B:You could come out and be like, oh, yeah, no, sorry, that was a state call with Israel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're not giving away state secrets by saying you were talking to Israel.
Speaker A:Get the out of here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And who's she gonna tell?
Speaker A:Like, she's trying to bed you as much as you're trying to bed her, so.
Speaker A:Or vice or.
Speaker A:I don't even.
Speaker A:I'm with you.
Speaker A:I don't remember.
Speaker A:Did they.
Speaker A:Had they already slept together at that point?
Speaker A:I don't remember.
Speaker B:I don't remember that.
Speaker B:But it was, it was up to the point where I was like, hey, you already know she's intelligent.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Why are you bounced around this bush trying to be like a normal guy?
Speaker B:She already knows you're the president.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Normals out the window.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You had to sneak your ass out the back.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, no, I'm with you.
Speaker A:I. I think another scene that I think about that I get is you have this really cool moment when he's at the end.
Speaker A:When he's at the, you know, he's in the press room and he's given this just.
Speaker A:He's just laying into Bob Rumson in the greatest way possible.
Speaker A:Like, look, if you want to go, let's go.
Speaker A:Yeah, believe her ass out of it.
Speaker A:Like, she's better than both of us.
Speaker A:Like, get the out of here.
Speaker A:You're a prick for bringing her into it.
Speaker A:Let's dance.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And I'm like, get a.
Speaker A:You know, and I get all riled up.
Speaker A:And then I'm like, yeah, cut the black.
Speaker A:Let's be done.
Speaker A:But no, now we got to resolve this issue that they had because he messed with her, right?
Speaker A:And he went.
Speaker A:He, you know, he went behind her back and didn't do their deal and to get the votes.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, now I gotta sit in this weird romance thing where he's like, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:And she's like, no, I.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You did what you had.
Speaker A:I'm like, get the out of here.
Speaker A:I didn't even hear the speech.
Speaker A:I was on my way back before or whatever it was.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, that was another problem, because she's like, I saw your speech.
Speaker B:And I was like, it was two minutes ago.
Speaker B:You came 12 blocks, but you get stuck on Dupont Circle this time of year all the time.
Speaker B:It would have been much better if it was just.
Speaker B:She came back.
Speaker B:The White House staff knows her.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They know what's gonna happen.
Speaker B:They let her in.
Speaker B:She gets to hear that speech, and then it's.
Speaker B:She comes.
Speaker B:She came back for a different reason.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But hearing the speech while she was there, because I was like, I picked that out.
Speaker B:I was like, no way.
Speaker B:First of all, how do you know he's giving a speech?
Speaker B:It seemed pretty impromptu that he walked in there when the.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Nobody else is ready for that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The press secretary was given the speech.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then I was like, so you're.
Speaker B:Just happy to be tuned in at what, 2:00 clock on a Thursday?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Out of here.
Speaker B:And then you made all the way down and beat him to the Oval Office.
Speaker B:No way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so it's like you.
Speaker B:You could have gone about that in a much better way to tell that story.
Speaker B:But I was like.
Speaker B:Because then they threw in the Dupont Circle joke, and I was like, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, imagine how cool it would have been.
Speaker A:Like, if.
Speaker A:To your point, I love what you're saying.
Speaker A:Like, she.
Speaker A:You see her in the car and she decides to just turn around and go to the White House.
Speaker A:Because she's like, look, he me over, but I love this dude.
Speaker A:I want to make it work.
Speaker A:We'll figure it out.
Speaker A:You know, he's a big.
Speaker A:You know, he's bigger things than making me happy.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So she goes back.
Speaker A:But to your point, I love the idea that maybe she walks into the back of the press room or, you know, she's sitting in the Oval Office watching it on a TV or in like to say, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Somewhere there's got a TV of the speech that she can watch it and he's not aware.
Speaker A:And then the very end of this movie, he comes out and she says, I saw your speech.
Speaker A:And then they walk into the Oval Office and close the door.
Speaker A:And then it cuts to black.
Speaker A:Like, how great would that be?
Speaker A:Like, yeah, what an ending.
Speaker B:The only thing that make it better is if AJ's the one.
Speaker B:Martin.
Speaker B:She's the one who brings her in the press.
Speaker A:Yeah, that would have been great.
Speaker A:But instead we get this perfect storybook ending.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:We get this goofy awkward where I'm like, ah, get the out of here.
Speaker A:We knew you were gonna end up together.
Speaker A:But I don't need to see it.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Just have him have, like a quick line because I don't mind the.
Speaker A:Saw your speech.
Speaker A:And then he's like.
Speaker A:Holds his hand out.
Speaker A:They hold hands and walk into the Oval or they go to the residence, whatever it is.
Speaker A:But don't talk anymore.
Speaker A:We know you're awkward as I know.
Speaker A:You just gave this killer speech.
Speaker A:She saw it.
Speaker A:All's right.
Speaker A:Go cut the black leave.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We don't need the extra of you saying it's all right.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We already know based on what has already been told to us.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so it was.
Speaker B:It was just a little bit on the extra side to where once again, you know, of course, hindsight's always 20 20, and there's always going to be someone like us who's, oh, you could have done it better.
Speaker B:But it's just like there were so many things that you could have done to make this better and make it fit more rather than almost trying to force this 90s romance.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Into a political drama for whatever goddamn reason, because everybody loves a scandal.
Speaker B:That's what, three?
Speaker A:There it is.
Speaker B:I got it.
Speaker B:90s Bill Clinton.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker A:There it is every time.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker A:So funny.
Speaker A:Oh, it's great.
Speaker A:Would have been right about that.
Speaker A:Same time, too, huh?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker A:We just watched the movie where he was worried about datener.
Speaker A:The current president was getting his in the White House while he's married.
Speaker B:Times are changing.
Speaker A:All of a sudden this movie doesn't feel so awkward.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Good stuff.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:What were you gonna say?
Speaker B:Oh, no, I just.
Speaker B:I was just agreeing with you.
Speaker B:Good stuff.
Speaker A:That is good stuff.
Speaker A:Should we rate this thing?
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:My movie.
Speaker A:I'll go first.
Speaker A:I'm so torn on this movie because it does have some sentimental value from me because we watch it all the time and I.
Speaker A:It's grown on me.
Speaker A:I'm gonna give it a four.
Speaker A:I want to give it higher because it has the potential.
Speaker B:Blink twice if Casey's outside your door watching you.
Speaker A:That's fair.
Speaker A:I would get my balls chopped off if she heard me say even a four, so.
Speaker A:But no.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm gonna give it a four.
Speaker A:And I think the.
Speaker A:This one is outside of my norm.
Speaker A:It's because of the potential that it has and the fact that the scenes that do work.
Speaker A:God bless.
Speaker A:They work really well for me.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:There are so many scenes in this movie that I remember and I think of even when I haven't watched this movie for years.
Speaker A:Like, and people talk about.
Speaker A:And it comes up in my mind, like, if I'm Talking politics with something.
Speaker A:With someone.
Speaker A:I can promise you, whether I say it or not, some scene from this movie pops into my head that fits the conversation that we're talking about.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because it covers the gamut of political issues that we still see today, probably more than we even saw back then.
Speaker A:And it was already a show back in the 90s, so to say that now, like, it's.
Speaker A:There's so many lessons to be learned.
Speaker A:And then I love the passion that he has for the Constitution and like.
Speaker A:Like the speech he gives his daughter about this is a great.
Speaker A:Like, read the first paragraph.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's the kind of president that I want.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, someone that actually believes in the system and what it is for what it should be.
Speaker A:But we haven't had that in as long as I can remember.
Speaker A:And so it's.
Speaker A:It's one of those things where, again, this movie pops into my head.
Speaker A:I think there's some phenomenal scenes, but I think there are things that don't work and.
Speaker A:And I could do without.
Speaker A:And if it weren't for how phenomenal the things that do work were, this would be a much lower rating for me because the things that don't work really don't work for me.
Speaker A:But they.
Speaker A:The other things are so good, including Michael J.
Speaker A:Fox, Martin Sheen, Michael Douglas, like, those three that they just kill it.
Speaker A:And so I. Yeah.
Speaker A:Giving it a four.
Speaker A:Obviously, I'm gonna watch this movie again because it pops up on my TV on occasion because Casey's like, I'm gonna watch the American President.
Speaker A:And I'm like, okay, sou.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:You know, so.
Speaker A:But I. Yeah, I think I'd watch it on my own relation as well, just because I. I do like the movie in general.
Speaker A:All right, Alec, your turn, buddy.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm also.
Speaker B:It's also tricky because the stuff that I didn't like in this movie, I really, really didn't like.
Speaker B:But there is so much good, like, you're talking about.
Speaker B:You can tell that it's.
Speaker B:It's someone who cares, wants to make a difference, wants to make a change.
Speaker B:Even on the point where, like, a line that I'm gonna keep with me is, you know, America is advanced citizenship or whatever it was along those lines, like, it's not a ride, a free ride.
Speaker B:It's not a ride.
Speaker B:Walk in the park.
Speaker B:It's not just passive.
Speaker B:Like, it's an advanced citizenship.
Speaker B:And that the.
Speaker B:The coin of freedom has really two sides to it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Like, because this is a big hot topic with freedom isn't free.
Speaker B:But also there's two sides, that coin of freedom.
Speaker B:And typically when you talk about things like that, one side is overpowering and not realizing that it's a two sided coin, it always has been.
Speaker B:But that goes back to that advanced citizenship stuff.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:And I would almost guarantee that most people today couldn't give you the preamble.
Speaker B:The Constitution couldn't give you the first couple words of the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like it's become a passive thing.
Speaker B:So this is a great movie for that.
Speaker B:Almost like hit you, hit you over the head.
Speaker B:Wake up call.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:At this point I'm just stalling because I think, I think I'm gonna come in at a three and a half.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I will watch clips of this again.
Speaker B:I don't know if I will go the, the distance on it and watch it beginning to end, but there's definite moments that I could just sit, you know, search up on YouTube, find the clip and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:From this I think I get three and a half.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:That's an Aaron Sorkin thing, I swear, because I like again, I don't love Newsroom, but there are parts that I'm like.
Speaker A:Like the first.
Speaker A:I don't know if you've ever watched the show, have you?
Speaker B:I've watched bits of it.
Speaker B:Not you in any.
Speaker A:You should watch it.
Speaker A:It's only three seasons.
Speaker A:I think you'd like it for the most part.
Speaker A:Like when it's really fun, it's a lot like this movie.
Speaker A:When it's serious, it's.
Speaker A:There's some really phenomenal scenes in it.
Speaker A:There's some hilarious ass comedy in it.
Speaker A:There's some romance, but most of the romance doesn't work.
Speaker A:I don't think Aaron Sorkin's very good at writing romance, in my opinion at this point.
Speaker A:But like the comedy in the series is very good and it'll get you riled up at times too.
Speaker A:You're like, yeah, like it's, it's good.
Speaker A:So I'd recommend watching it.
Speaker A:I gotta make sure Casey didn't hear that either because I on that show every time she turns it on.
Speaker A:But it's actually pretty good.
Speaker A:Yeah, you'll have to hbo.
Speaker A:It's on there.
Speaker A:You can watch anytime.
Speaker A:But anyway, so like it's good.
Speaker A:But the Aaron Sorkin thing, like, I don't remember where I was going with this, to be honest.
Speaker A:Oh, the clips, like all YouTube stuff, like the opening scene that Jeff Daniels gives in the college, like they're having this, like, Q A thing where he's like, the United States isn't the greatest.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's from that show.
Speaker A:And I'll watch that all the time because it is such a great point.
Speaker A:And it fits a lot of what he like, mentions.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like you're talking about the advanced citizenship thing.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And then on top of that, like, I don't know if you saw the clip of Arnold Schwarzenegger on the View recently.
Speaker A:Like, I hate the View.
Speaker A:I don't watch that, but I watched and I.
Speaker A:For Arnold Schwarzenegger, what he said in that clip, like, the whole look, I'm an immigrant, but at the same time, like, you can't just come and leech off the United States.
Speaker A:Like, you have to.
Speaker A:It's a give and take.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like you said, it's.
Speaker A:There's two sides to this coin.
Speaker A:Like, you don't just get to come and have freedom.
Speaker A:Like, you have to come and provide back to the United.
Speaker A:To the.
Speaker A:To America as an immigrant to help make the country even better and improve on things and then get the benefits that come from being a citizen in the United States.
Speaker A:So it was a great speech.
Speaker A:If you ever watched this, you go watch it anyway.
Speaker A:Listening.
Speaker A:But it fits that.
Speaker A:It's like those.
Speaker A:Those moments.
Speaker A:Sorkin is phenomenal at writing.
Speaker A:So you can go YouTube a lot of that.
Speaker A:Aaron Sorkin does.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I mean, it's the same as A Few Good Men.
Speaker A:How many of us don't go back and YouTube the courtroom scene?
Speaker A:Like, are you me?
Speaker A:It's one of the greatest written scenes in film history.
Speaker A:And so it's like, he's a great writer.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker A:Yeah, clip it up.
Speaker A:You should YouTube the out of Aaron Sorkin clips, including these ones.
Speaker B:Yeah, because I. I've seen that news room clip of Jeff Daniels.
Speaker B:The Belgium has freedom.
Speaker A:100, 208 sovereign nations, like 180 of them have freedom.
Speaker A:It's so.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I love what he's like, dude, when you ask me if the United States is the greatest country in the world.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:You're talking about the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:What is the Giants or the.
Speaker A:Yeah, the.
Speaker A:So whatever.
Speaker A:One of the baseball teams or.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Football teams.
Speaker A:The jets again, I don't know you're talking about.
Speaker A:It's great.
Speaker A:Anyway, good movie.
Speaker A:It's a good discussion.
Speaker A:I like this.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Matt's a.
Speaker A:Missed out vacations.
Speaker A:This guy.
Speaker B:It's because.
Speaker B:It's because he's a communist.
Speaker B:That's why.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Better red than dead.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker A:This guy over Here.
Speaker A:Great.
Speaker A:Anyway, all right, with Alec, before we go, I almost skipped your whole piece, dude.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Tell everybody where they can find this dude.
Speaker B:Happy to.
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Speaker B:With that, I'll kick it back to The Wazir of WAP the Great Bambino.
Speaker A:A J.J. that's right.
Speaker A:Just so everybody knows, right now, Amy Adams, Brad Pitt, and John Cusack are winning in the actor poll.
Speaker B:A single one of mine.
Speaker A:Damn it.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're up against Bradley Cooper, Samuel Jackson, and Sandra Bullock.
Speaker A:So go vote if you want to vote.
Speaker A:Only a couple days left in that one, and then we got to get movies picked so we can start recording for August.
Speaker A:But, yeah, go check it out anyway.
Speaker A:As always, we appreciate you tuning in.
Speaker A:We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker B:Hasta la vista, baby.
Speaker A:Cinematic.
