Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)
In this engaging episode, we delve into the complexities and nuances of the animated classic "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" The film, released in 1988, serves as a nostalgic cornerstone for many, yet evokes mixed reactions from viewers, as evidenced by our own divergent perspectives. JJ expresses a profound admiration for the film's unique blend of live-action and animation, its rich character portrayals, and the poignancy embedded within its comedic facade. Conversely, Alec articulates a distinct aversion to the film, citing a lack of nostalgic connection and a sense of anxiety it imparts rather than enjoyment. This discussion not only underscores our contrasting viewpoints but also invites listeners to reflect upon their own experiences with this cinematic landmark, exploring themes of nostalgia, humor, and the interplay between childhood memories and adult perceptions.
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But yeah, I struggle with this one, jj.
Speaker A:I struggle with this movie quite a bit.
Speaker B:Well, all I'm gonna say then is good.
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Speaker B:I don't think I could handle Roger.
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Speaker B:We're ready for week three of our animated month.
Speaker B:And that particular month or week, this particular week is who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It was written by Jeffrey Price, Peter S. Seaman and Gary K. Wolf.
Speaker B:Directed by Robert Zemeckis.
Speaker B:It stars Bob Hoskins, Christopher Lloyd, Joanna Cassidy, Charles Fleischer, Stubby K. Alan Tilburn, Richard La Parmentier, Lou Hirsch, Betsy Brantley, Joel Silver, Richard Riding's Paul Springer.
Speaker B:It keeps going and going and going because there's a lot of people in this movie, so I'll stop there.
Speaker B:But it is about a cartoon rabbit who's accused of murder and he enlists the help of a burnt out private investigator to prove his innocence.
Speaker A:It's pretty accurate.
Speaker B:It is pretty accurate.
Speaker B:It's pretty spot on.
Speaker B:Roger.
Speaker B:Food frame.
Speaker B:Roger.
Speaker B:That's my movie.
Speaker B:Listen, this movie is like a nostalgia bomb for me, okay?
Speaker B:I was seven years old when this movie came out.
Speaker B:And I remember not seeing it when I was seven because my parents were smart enough to realize that this is not necessarily an appropriate for children movie.
Speaker B:However, I did think I was like 10 or 11 when I finally was able to see it.
Speaker B:And I laughed my ass off.
Speaker B:And I still laugh my ass off at this movie.
Speaker B:I do the stupid please all the time just because.
Speaker B:Why not?
Speaker B:And like, yeah, like, it's just.
Speaker B:This is an iconic movie for people for kids.
Speaker B:80S and early 90s kids like me.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, it's.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is one of those ones.
Speaker B:So when it was animated, I was like, oh, yeah, we're doing this.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I almost did this movie.
Speaker B:I almost put this on a vote forever ago when we did, like, sister movies where we did.
Speaker B:We were doing the arbitration series with this one in Cool World,.
Speaker A:But then.
Speaker B:I remembered I'd have to watch Cool World and I thought, I love Brad Pitt, but I ain't doing it.
Speaker B:So it did not happen.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that's why I picked this movie because I, I love it.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's so nostalgic for me and never stops being funny.
Speaker B:So what about you, buddy?
Speaker B:What you, what do you.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:I know you'd seen this one before.
Speaker A:Yes, I'd seen this one before.
Speaker A:Unfortunately, I don't like Roger Rabbit.
Speaker A:I really don't.
Speaker A:I don't know why.
Speaker A:I know I'm the only person in the world that doesn't.
Speaker A:But I cannot for the life of me get into it.
Speaker A:I don't have the nostalgia tie because I was negative five when this came out.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:Never watched it growing up.
Speaker A:This was not a movie I watched.
Speaker A:I watched it the first time probably 10 years ago, I would say.
Speaker A:And it just.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:There's very little I get into with it.
Speaker A:Like, Bob Hoskins is great.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:The problem is that he's so good playing like a cynical character.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That is almost attracting in its own way.
Speaker A:Because we did the Mario movie, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:He was the best part of it, but he also didn't want to be.
Speaker A:This is the same thing.
Speaker B:Oh, for sure.
Speaker A:And it all.
Speaker A:It's such a great performance by him.
Speaker A:But it also just contributes to almost the fact that he doesn't act like he wants to be there.
Speaker A:Even though it leans into his character for whatever reason, makes me not want to watch it.
Speaker A:And so this movie is so hard for me to get through.
Speaker A:It's only like 80 something minutes long, I think.
Speaker A:And I am like halfway through going, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker A:What else do we have to get through?
Speaker A:So I, I know I'm the majority.
Speaker A:Minority words are hard.
Speaker A:I know I'm the minority on this.
Speaker A:But I don't like this movie.
Speaker A:I, I struggle so hard.
Speaker A:And it could be, it could be because it's Disney satire.
Speaker A:And when Disney does satire, it's more like an all out attack.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker A:Rather than spoken fun.
Speaker A:They're just, they're just taking it to Looney Tunes at this point.
Speaker A:And anything that's not actually related to Disney.
Speaker A:But Yeah, I struggle with this one, jj.
Speaker A:I struggle with this movie quite a bit.
Speaker B:Well, all I'm gonna say then is good, I deserve that.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Hilarious.
Speaker A:But I, I don't understand because my wife loves this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:She thinks it's the greatest scene ever made.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:There's a lot of people who think the same thing.
Speaker A:Like it is a wildly popular movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't understand why.
Speaker A:Why J.J. because you have the nostalgia factor.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You were sure seven or whatever when this happened and didn't watch it exactly then.
Speaker A:But you're around this kind of animation to movie style and just kind of everything that's happening you can relate to in some way, shape or form.
Speaker A:But there are people that I am convinced only like this movie because they've been told to like it.
Speaker B:That could be true.
Speaker A:I don't, I don't know.
Speaker A:I got movies like that where there's no other reason why I like them other than it's someone else.
Speaker A:It was a good movie and I agree.
Speaker A:But I cannot understand because everybody says, oh, it's so funny.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I laugh at maybe three jokes throughout the entire thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, that really get me.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah, there's a lot that doesn't that surprises me.
Speaker B:Like there's so much like it does and it doesn't.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, because I understand you and you're kind of Bob Hoskins in young form.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Like kind of a cynical, cynical bastard.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But I will say, like, so I don't to start off, the opening sequence of this movie slays me.
Speaker B:Dude.
Speaker B:And I hate saying that word because I think that's the dumbest.
Speaker A:Okay, Zoomer, it slays.
Speaker B:But I'll dude this movie.
Speaker B:And then there was like, I remember when I was a kid too, because when it came out on VHS after like this is one of the first movies that had like a post credit scene, if you will.
Speaker B:But it was a whole Saturday morning 20 minute cartoon, like with Roger Rabbit and the baby.
Speaker B:And so only it was like full on, like this is what the movie, what they were trying to film.
Speaker B:Hilarious.
Speaker B:That sequence may be funnier than the whole actual movie.
Speaker B:But anyway, so for me, that opening sequence, like you're, you're tuning in and as a K kid, you're like, oh, it's a cartoon.
Speaker B:This is funny.
Speaker B:The baby, he's getting abused while this babies, he's like crawling across all the danger.
Speaker B:And it's like your typical silly Saturday morning Looney Tunes sketch.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden this baby.
Speaker B:What the hell are you doing, Roger?
Speaker B:Like, like what?
Speaker B:He runs under, flips the lady's skirt up to this day, dude, I'm 45 years old and I giggle like a little kid.
Speaker B:This the whole first ten minutes of this movie because it just takes me back.
Speaker B:And then from there it was just such to me like a departure of the norm.
Speaker B:Especially back then.
Speaker B:Like adult cartoons were off limits back then.
Speaker B:I mean other than like your weird ones.
Speaker B:Like what we did last week with like Heavy Metal where it was tuned for adults, like there's no question about it.
Speaker B:But this crossover of live action mixed with animation, but done in A silly satirical.
Speaker B:Like, what would it be like if we shared the ability to cross over into Toontown and they could come over into the real world?
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:Again, they tried to do it with Cool World and it just didn't work.
Speaker B:It was too on the serious side.
Speaker B:And so this one is just so goofy and funny and then you've got.
Speaker B:It's just riddled with amazing actors and actresses.
Speaker B:Like, what the.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:And that's not just Bob Hoskins.
Speaker B:You got Christopher Lloyd, who shouldn't make sense that he's this good as this character, but he again plays this amazing villain that turns and he just looks wrong the whole movie.
Speaker B:I remember thinking, what the.
Speaker B: cause I'm used to him as from: Speaker B:Where he looks normal and he's goofy and then he's got this pasty, weird, almost mask look to him.
Speaker B:So they did a great job with the makeup to just make him look a little bit wrong.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But I never suspected anything until the end as a child.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:But then you got Kathleen Turner as.
Speaker B:As Jessica Rabbit, the voice and, like, she plays it so well.
Speaker B:And you've got.
Speaker B:I mean, you.
Speaker B:They're pulling in Mel Blanc for Daffy Duck and Sylvester.
Speaker B:You've got all the old.
Speaker B:Like Peter Westy comes in for Pinocchio in his little cameo.
Speaker B:So it's just this pure, unadulterated.
Speaker B:Let's just cut loose to the point that they even paired up.
Speaker B:I don't know if you knew this.
Speaker B:Here's a fun factoid for you in order to.
Speaker B:For this.
Speaker B:Because Disney's studios or their sister studios are the ones making the movies, right?
Speaker B:They actually had to.
Speaker B:The one thing that.
Speaker B:Whatever the.
Speaker B:The actual studio for Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck was.
Speaker B:Why can't I think of it Warner Brothers.
Speaker B:So anyway, they're making this film and Warner Brothers said.
Speaker B:Because Warner Brothers, a bunch of.
Speaker B:They're like, you can't use Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck unless they got as much screen time as Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.
Speaker B:So if you think about the movie, they're always paired up.
Speaker B:You see the.
Speaker B:The piano battle between the ducks.
Speaker B:You got Bugs Bunny and Daffy or Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse falling through the disguise diving sequence.
Speaker B:That's because then they share the same amount of screen time.
Speaker B:And that's the only way Warner Brothers would let them have those characters.
Speaker B:Same with Porky Pig and Tinkerbell.
Speaker B:Porky Pig's in there for just long enough to do his bdb.
Speaker B:That's all, folks.
Speaker B:And then Tinkerbell comes in for the same amount of time to do her little dash to close out the movie.
Speaker B:So it.
Speaker B:But I love, I don't think Disney would do some like that anymore, right?
Speaker B:Like they'll just buy Warner Brothers, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:And so it's one of those things where back then it was really cool that they were willing to do that in order to have the maximum amount of impact for this movie.
Speaker B:So anyway, I'm talking out my ass, but like that's why all these things that I think about, like for me make this movie really great.
Speaker B:And then the fact that it's just a weird and interesting, this noir mystery type deal with this goofy.
Speaker B:And I'll tell you what, the shave and a haircut, hell, dude, I laugh so hard when he's like shaking and in the back room, dude.
Speaker B:It's so good to me because the, the silliness, it reminds me of waking up ass crack early as a kid to watch Saturday morning cartoons and then to be able to go, okay, well now I've done watching Saturday morning cartoons, I'm gonna go hop the red line over to goddamn Toontown and hang out.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Anyway, very long explanation for your question.
Speaker A:No, that's good because while you were talking, it helped me realize that like that opening sequence where you were like nostalgia, let's go happy, go lucky fun.
Speaker A:That just fills me with anxiety.
Speaker A:Like really, I, I was sitting there watching it going like, because you're, you got Baby Herman like crawling across the stove.
Speaker A:You have all the, you know, Roger rabbits tripping on every single kitchen utensil.
Speaker A:You got the knives flying everywhere.
Speaker B:And I'm just sitting there going, this baby's gonna die.
Speaker A:So that first five minutes or whatever it is just like absolutely spine tingling anxiety to like fix the problem.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so that always.
Speaker A:That already puts me like behind.
Speaker A:But that's because I didn't have this, you know, early watching experience type of Athena.
Speaker A:It's much later for me.
Speaker A:And so I start off the movie on the wrong foot and kind of just stay there.
Speaker A:Although shaving a haircut gets me.
Speaker A:That's one of the jokes I laugh at.
Speaker A:And then I laugh at the Patty cake joke that cracks me up.
Speaker A:And then the last one that really kind of gets me when I watch it is the conversation with the weasels in Hoskins flat office apartment thing going back and forth where it's just.
Speaker A:He's washing the dishes repeatedly and just keeps having to shove Roger Rabbit back down and crack up with that for the dumbest reason.
Speaker A:Because I'm almost thinking to myself, like, he's a tune.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Another water.
Speaker A:It's not dip.
Speaker A:He's fine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:You know, you're a tune.
Speaker A:You should be able to hold your breath for, you know, ever.
Speaker A:That's how the cartoons work.
Speaker A:But those are like the three ones that get me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Most of the other stuff kind of just like, I'm just, let's go, let's get through it.
Speaker A:Or it's a slog going through.
Speaker A:Or there's just, there's.
Speaker A:There's a lot of like almost twitchy anxiety going on whenever Roger Rabbit is on screen.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Because it's so funny.
Speaker A:I'm not that spazzy kind of person.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:And so that kind of energy is just like.
Speaker B:It's a lot.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's almost like dealing with someone who works in sales for me.
Speaker A:Like, shut up.
Speaker A:That's fair.
Speaker A:Just take your mouth in.
Speaker A:Close it.
Speaker A:This is a slog for me.
Speaker A:Whenever I have to sit down and watch it, I'm almost like, yay.
Speaker A:And I, I can't really say it right because everybody I'm watching with is this is my favorite movie of all time.
Speaker A:And I don't have a good reason for not liking it other than I don't like it.
Speaker A:And so I just kind of gotta sit there in my, you know, nail biting anxiety going, yeah, funny.
Speaker A:Oh, but that's, that's my story with Roger Rabbit.
Speaker B:No, it's.
Speaker B:So here it.
Speaker B:Here, this will maybe make you feel better.
Speaker B:So the first test audience for the.
Speaker B:I got a lot of trivia for this movie.
Speaker A:Okay, good.
Speaker B:So the first test audience was mostly 18 and 19 year olds and they hated it.
Speaker B:Like they almost the entire audience walked out of the screening.
Speaker B:Okay, but Zemeckis being Zemeckis notoriously difficult and just does his own.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:And he had, he always has final cut for his movies.
Speaker B:He said he wasn't changing a thing.
Speaker B:And sure as now here's my.
Speaker B:I ring that up to say, one, you're not alone.
Speaker B:A lot of people hate this movie.
Speaker B:Two, I'd love to meet those 18 and 19 year olds right now and say, do you still hate this movie?
Speaker B:Because I'd be curious to see how many of them caved into peer pressure.
Speaker B:For all of us that just love this movie.
Speaker B:I don't know how you could walk out of this movie.
Speaker A:Oh, I I would have done it.
Speaker A:I can easily walk out of this movie.
Speaker A:It's hard to stay watching this movie when I'm sitting on my couch.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:It's like, I could be doing X, Y and Z, like, you know, making bread or something.
Speaker A:Other useless hobby that I have.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Versus having to continue to watch Roger Rabbit.
Speaker B:So another piece of trivia with Bob Hoskins, because we know we love Bob, right?
Speaker B:It's around here.
Speaker B:And I mean, him and his kid have this, like, tumultuously weird relationship when it comes to his movies because they had.
Speaker B:They had that thing with the Super Mario Brothers movie too, where he was like, no, dad, you just gotta do it, or whatever.
Speaker B:Well, so this one, his kid wouldn't talk to him for two weeks after he saw the movie.
Speaker B:He's like, what the.
Speaker B:So when he finally asked his son why he wouldn't talk to him, he said he couldn't believe his dad worked with cartoon carrier characters like Bugs Bunny and didn't let him meet him.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, that's up.
Speaker B:How do you explain that to kid without crushing their soul?
Speaker B:One, right.
Speaker B:Another, right.
Speaker B:You're like, well, come talk to me again when you're 16.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was great.
Speaker B:Oh, the other one that I.
Speaker B:You'll love too, is Tim Curry.
Speaker B:Because I'm a huge fan of Tim Curry.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So Tim Curry originally auditioned for the role of Judge Doom instead of that.
Speaker B:And that was.
Speaker B:He was who they.
Speaker B:He was their first one.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But Zemeckis and Spielberg, along with Katzenberg and Eisner of.
Speaker B:From Disney, they were like, he's too scary, so he didn't get the part.
Speaker B:And I was like, that tracks.
Speaker B:Yeah, he would have.
Speaker B:Sick as hell.
Speaker A:Yeah, he would have been terrifying.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:As Judge Doom.
Speaker B:Like, that would have been dope as hell.
Speaker B:But yeah, I. I like, I just love this movie.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I'll say this one thing, because we haven't really talked about the movie itself, right?
Speaker B:Then the gags.
Speaker B:One of the things that, as an adult, I appreciate is the actual, like, emotional weight that there is to this movie.
Speaker B:Like, there's the moment when Hoskins, when he finally opens up about what happened to his brother to.
Speaker B:To Roger Rabbit, and, like, Roger Rabbit starts crying.
Speaker B:And, like, I know they made it goofy after, but that whole, like, performance of Bob Hoskins telling that story, you're like, that's up.
Speaker B:Like, and it's all.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And then there's moments, and then there's like, some really poignant Lines that shouldn't make sense, but they even make sense even more to me today sometimes.
Speaker B:Like the one where he's talking to.
Speaker B:To Jessica Rabbit and he's like, before he gets busted with his pants down by his girl.
Speaker B:And she's like, you don't know how hard it is to be a woman that looks like me.
Speaker B:And he's like, you don't know how hard it is to be a man and see a woman that looks like you.
Speaker B:And I'm like, I was like, that's crazy.
Speaker B:But I like.
Speaker B:And I say that to say this, like movies that are not afraid to say some like that, right?
Speaker B:Because both sides are right.
Speaker B:I can only imagine what being an attractive human being and that level of attractiveness, right, like, or the implied level of attractiveness.
Speaker B:Because some people don't find like Jessica Rabbit attractive at all.
Speaker B:One, because she's a cartoon and two, because she looks.
Speaker B:That's just not their thing, right?
Speaker B:But there are a lot of people that do.
Speaker B:But in real life, like, if you think about these just like hyper attractive people, that comes with a weird level of, I'm sure.
Speaker B:But at the same time, like, a lot of people get on because it's like, well, we.
Speaker B:It's just as weird and uncomfortable for us normal looking people to have to be in your presence and look at you and be expected to act like a normal human being.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:And I think that.
Speaker B:And this is getting really philosophical on about who Framed Roger Babbitt?
Speaker B:So I apologize.
Speaker B:And maybe I don't apologize, I don't know.
Speaker B:But like, I think about it from a perspective of a human being to human being.
Speaker B:Like, if we would just take a second and go, yeah, you got some going on.
Speaker B:But understand that I got some going on too.
Speaker B:And both sides of that perspective are correct or are just as wrong on difficult.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, we always think so much, especially nowadays.
Speaker B: s come from to, you know, the: Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:So I just love that this goofy ass, stupid movie, because it is.
Speaker B:It's goofy and it's stupid.
Speaker B:90% Of it has these just outrageously poignant moments that drop those little nuggets of fucking truth that if you're paying attention, you're like, that was deep.
Speaker A:See, that's my Problem.
Speaker A:I'm not paying attention.
Speaker A:And I'm also one of those people that is absolutely.
Speaker A:Don't give a.
Speaker A:About anybody else.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:You're too attractive.
Speaker A:That must be terrible for you.
Speaker A:Come back with the real problem.
Speaker B:Yeah, well.
Speaker B:And I love her response too, which was just the.
Speaker B:Probably the most.
Speaker B:I wasn't.
Speaker B:I'm not bad.
Speaker B:I was just drawn that way and I'm like.
Speaker B:Because, I mean, I'm not, Not my fault.
Speaker B:I was born that way.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So it's just like, I just, I love it.
Speaker B:The fact that you can throw in.
Speaker B:And we've talked about it before, like, I love adult moments in a kid's movie.
Speaker B:And at the end of the day, yes, this is an adult themed kids movie, which is why they screened it with 18 and 19 year olds.
Speaker B:You're just barely removed from being a child and not by much.
Speaker B:So it's like, I don't know.
Speaker B:But I appreciate the fact that there wasn't just this lean into nothing but goofy.
Speaker B:That there were some serious moments in the movie as well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So should we rate it?
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker B:It's my movie.
Speaker B:Listen, I'm giving this a four and a half.
Speaker B:It's funny as hell.
Speaker B:It's got poignancy, it's got good points.
Speaker B:It's got an amazing cast.
Speaker B:It sticks to its story from start to finish.
Speaker B:Like it introduced you to the what that you get in the first five minutes.
Speaker B:An understanding of what the.
Speaker B:You're watching real quick, even though it throws you for a loop.
Speaker B:But then from there on, like, it sticks to this story of.
Speaker B:This is a dude that's got some going on.
Speaker B:He doesn't want to be part of the tunes.
Speaker B:There's a whole backstory.
Speaker B:But we get to the end and it's like he comes first, full circle.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And now he's got this goofy rabbit partner that you're just like, this is amazing.
Speaker B:So I love it.
Speaker B:I. I think it's, it's, it's a, A relic of a bygone age of storytelling and movie making that we'll never probably see on the similar level again.
Speaker B:Because you can't make a movie like this now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because it's standards now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, fine.
Speaker B:But you also have to like, everybody's looking for the blockbuster and this ain't it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Like, right.
Speaker B:This is a niche.
Speaker B:Gotta make it work.
Speaker B:But it's made for certain people.
Speaker B:And it's kind of a Zemeckis thing.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:At least early Zemeckis.
Speaker B:But, yeah, four and a half for me.
Speaker B:I'll watch this anytime, anywhere, and laugh my ass off.
Speaker B:So your turn.
Speaker B:Break my heart and my dreams.
Speaker A:I have been dreading this moment.
Speaker B:I bet.
Speaker A:Since I had to watch this.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Since this popped up on the list, I've been dreading this moment because I knew I'd have to do it.
Speaker A:I'd have to rate this movie.
Speaker A:And it's tricky because I. I'm fully aware that I'm in the minority on this.
Speaker A:Most people that would watch this or interact with us or talk about this movie at all are going to be like, it's my favorite, or I like it or I enjoy it, or it's nostalgia for me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know what to give it, dude, because I recognize it's me.
Speaker A:Problem.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:But I also look at it.
Speaker A:I'm like, I. I don't recommend this to anybody.
Speaker A:I'm not like, oh, you should go watch this movie.
Speaker A:It's a good movie.
Speaker A:I'm gonna give it a two.
Speaker A:I'll give it a solid two.
Speaker A:And I'm gonna say, don't watch it.
Speaker A:You're not missing out on anything.
Speaker A:Sure, you can have these deep moments, but you're playing better movies out there with deep moments, like Beauty and the Beast.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That's a good one for talking about, you know, how people look.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I'll give it a turn.
Speaker A:Fair enough.
Speaker A:If I can avoid it, I will never watch this movie ever again.
Speaker A:I won't be able to avoid it, though.
Speaker B:These are.
Speaker B:Yeah, thankfully.
Speaker B:Oh, she loves it.
Speaker B:I said thank you if I could,.
Speaker A:But I'm incapable of one last piece.
Speaker B:Of trivia to end it out.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:Speaking of that line, I'm not bad.
Speaker B:I'm just drawn that way.
Speaker B:Was voted as the number 83 of the 100 greatest movie lines by Premiere.
Speaker B:Premiere.
Speaker A:You should be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker B:Oh, I think it was more of a delivery that made it so good.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:It's a great line.
Speaker B:It's a great line.
Speaker B:All right, Alec, tell everyone where they can find us when we're not hopping the red line and head over to Toontown.
Speaker A:Happy to.
Speaker A:Best place to find us is on YouTube where you can see our smiling faces.
Speaker A:Grinning faces, upset faces, mad faces, angry faces, bad faces.
Speaker A:All the good kind of faces that we get while we're talking about movies.
Speaker A:Outside of that, the best place to interact with us is on Patreon at.
Speaker A:What's our Verge reviews on Patreon, we have bunch of content that you can get by getting behind a little bitty paywall.
Speaker A:But that is also where we have all of our votes, all of our interactions, and those can be done for absolutely free.
Speaker A:So get on Patreon.
Speaker A:You can interact with us, get involved in the content making vote for topics and movies that we're going to be putting up.
Speaker A:We're doing.
Speaker A:I'm have plans to do a lot more in terms of content on Patreon, so that's the best place to actually get involved with the podcast.
Speaker A:Aside from that, you know, special shout out to our current patrons, Charles and CB And Rich, you guys are amazing.
Speaker A:Thank you for everything that you do.
Speaker A:And like JJ said, the beginning w GG Go partner.
Speaker A:Go get your energy fix.
Speaker A:It's a better better than Rockstar.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That much I can guarantee.
Speaker A:With that, I'll kick it back to the colossus of clout, the Maharaja of mash A jj.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Appreciate it.
Speaker B:Yep, there it is.
Speaker B:That's all I got to say.
Speaker B:And as always, we appreciate you tuning in.
Speaker B:We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker A:Hasta la vista, baby.
Speaker B:Cinematica.
